Hi John, I will stick with the original sheet metal design. It is strong enough when proper thickness metal is used. It will also stay closer to the original. I have to say that the frame itself is not so bad. It is a pretty good design. Of course there is some room for improvement but the basic shape of the frame will stay pretty much the same. It's the suspension that will be changed, both front and rear. At this time I'm still pretty far away from actually having a completed frame, but the work is under way. Already about 95% of the frame components are cut out and waiting to be shaped. The parts are cut from a sheet of metal using CNC plasma cutter which gives great accuracy of about 0.1mm. Next the flat pieces will be shaped into 3D parts on a CNC shaping/bending machine with accuracy of less than 0.1 degrees. The DeLorean was never built with such accuracy but hey, times have changed! I decided to use the best methods I can. I want my car to be the best it can be! I will keep you all posted on the progress. Thank you Tom Niemczewski vin 6149 (in Poland!) Google earth: 52°25'17.30"N 21° 1'58.00"E dmctom@xxxxxxxxx www.deloreana.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Dore" <dmcjohn@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: <dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2008 10:49 PM Subject: [DML] Re: Lotus Esprit Rear Suspension Hi Tom, I agree with you - the original suspension design is very poor. The later Esprit's had a much better front lower control arm, you can see a pic here: http://www.delorean.ie/images/009_oblique_view_lh_jpg.jpg Didn't Toby Peterson do something similar with his car years ago? I seem to remember him adding extra links on the front lower suspension in order to triangulate the arm, and he had good results. But, your approach sounds great, to design a new frame. Are you going with a tubular design rather than the original stressed skin folded sheetmetal? You might find the following 2 links interesting - a tubular version of our backbone frames, with proper double wishbone suspension: http://www.banks-europa.co.uk/cars/chassis.htm and http://www.spydercars.co.uk/pg3_special_projects.htm Looking forward to seeing the results, best of luck! Regards, John ------------------------------------ To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: moderators@xxxxxxxxxxx For more info on the list, tech articles, cars for sale see www.dmcnews.com To search the archives or view files, log in at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnewsYahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:dmcnews-digest@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx mailto:dmcnews-fullfeatured@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: dmcnews-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/