And for the Diehards(this will REALLY make you hate me) that "think" the Bricklin had "nothing at all" to do with JZD and the car better think twice about it....The Bricklin HAD everything to do with JZD and even WITH him leaving GM. Gullwing doors are not the only thing that the two cars had going. Bottom line it inspired him to "Live His Dream"(How else could he come up with that slogan if he did not try to live his dream first,then later his nightmare :) In JZD's case to go on his "own" and build a better Fastback DSV Gull-winged sports car for the American market...Naming it after himself,using Government funds,in a poor area,for the USA market by a American.Then leaving the Government hanging with tons of debits.And a lot of people out of work.The ONLY difference between the Bricklin and the Delorean,is that he HAD more money to spend for better engineering,and reverse engineering the Bricklin,into his Delorean..in other words he either improved upon the Basic Bricklin or re-engineered just the opposite of how it was done on the Bricklin.(See I told you you were going to hate me)But keep reading on.... This will really boil your blood..... Example:Build a car with mostly out-sourced parts, Change to rear engine..but keep rear wheel drive,Delete hideaway headlights,make bigger Quarter window(s) for rear view,improve the system to open the G.Wing doors,USE a fiberglass body,but engineered in a different fashion as the underbody and as a structural member,And STILL have a built in safety cage/roll bar.(same concept)..No paint,...NO TAN INTERIOR,...Add ashtray/C.Lighter (neither in the Bricklin)Make the G.Wing doors COVER the windshield cowl, (Bricklin's did not),Do not engineer the car with the Hideaway Windshield wiper hood design, (Bricklin had that...even tho IT WAS JZD's INVENTION).Engineer the car WITH major Safety Bumpers(but hidden)Redesign the frame to lower the door opening/access.Re-engineer a way better interior,Engineer the doors to be FULLY stainless,rather than sheet steel/Fiberglass/acyclic,Make the majority of the cars 5 spd( bricklin did the opposite)Stay away from Ford engines..Engineer/designed his OWN taillights,(Pantara tailights on the Bricklin)rather than use them from another make/model. Engineer the roof panel "T" Shaped rather than the Bricklin's "H" shaped roof panel. Engineer mechanical door handles,rather than electronic,Engineer side skirts lower to the cars side profile, make a flat hood design rather than curved,Louvers in rear rather than a window,Engineer a mild steel Full frame,rather than a heavy duty square tubing full frame.Even going as far as not putting a full opening windows(Bricklin had full opening windows)And put R&D Before production output,(Bricklin failed to do that,JZD learned from that) Price the car at one price(12k)then sell for 25K(Picked that up from Mal Bricklin)Build up a Dealer network using existing dealers.Invest as little of your own capital..but claim otherwise....but get as much as you can from others. I know Lotus did the engineering...BUT it was STILL JZD's final say as to HOW and what was Added/Deleted/materials used/color choices/etc. There is JUST TO MUCH in common to say otherwise. Again Bottom Line JZD started his car from Scratch..but looking at the Bricklin for BOTH Positive and Negative engineering Reference (mostly negative ie:doing the opposite) Then the final straw BOTH had 3 model years,both went belly-up by their sponsored governments,Both were Bought by the same Liquidating Company,both had that same company finish their last remaining cars/sold off by the same company/Store their Inventory/sell off their inventory..can you see a pattern here. Ok Flame suit on.... Claude. --- In dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Delorean3@... wrote: > > Matt, > > You make many statements in your post without any source or proof. Can you > back up your statements? You make a lot of assumptions in your letter but > they appear to be your own opinion which is quite negative regarding JZD. To > think that JZD would conspire to go public to defraud investors is ludicrous. > Its not how the system works. Let's see - JZD leaves GM, where he was making > a huge salary and was probably destined to be the next CEO. He develops a > scam to defraud investors out of millions of dollars. But he has to develop a > stainless steel car in the process so people would buy into this scam. > Sounds like a winner to me. > Some of what you are posting might be true, but I doubt the plan was as > sinister as you propose. Its been 27 years since the stainless steel Delorean > was produced. I don't really care about your negative viewpoint. All I care > about is the car, the inventor (JZD) and my Delorean friends who all love their > cars. > Your opinion does not become fact because you post it. Good luck with your > museum. > > boB Cutrupi > > > > **************Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for > fuel-efficient used cars. 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