Ok....I'll say it. Many people will never re-join the DOA until more of older/past board members either leave or pass away. While many revere them for thier service to the community they were obsessed with thier power over the community. Some used intimidation to squash dissent. I recieved a call from a now deceased board member (who thought I wouldn't know his voice...wrong!!) who told me that someone would be at my house to "beat my head in with a baseball bat" a day after I complained about preferential treatment for Delorean One ads in Delorean World Magazine. The person called my office, asked for me directly. Now where would somneone get my private office number?....hmmm let's see, perhaps from a delorean repair shop that had my private office number on file to contact me when my car was ready. Connect the dots folks. The board was an elitist group hell bent on making sure they were the ONLY source of information on our cars....WHY? you may ask.....well since Mr. Bernstein ran Delorean One, a repair and service shop, I think it's pretty obvious. Let's not forget that it was the DOA that threatened James Espey when he started the DML....yup,they were going to slap him with a lawsuit to stop this forum. Nice, eh? Yes, years have past since those days but for long timers like me, it still leaves a bad taste. If Delorean One has ANYTHING to do with the DOA or if Mr. Berstein has ANY involvement in the DOA, you will most likely never see a mending of the rift. It was standard practice by the DOA that if ANYONE complained about the way they did things, you were labeled a "rabble rouser". The DOA would then whine that "Hey, we are just volunteers...leave us alone" Basically, give us your money but if you don't voulnteer for the board SHUT UP and don't have anything negative to say. In my case I was threatned with physical violence.....some of you may say it's B.S. but when I went to the next DOA board meeting after the phone call, you could hear a pin drop when I told them about it. The guy who made the call would not even make eye contact with me. Some of the comments at that 1989 meeting were...."Nobody would do that" "why would we?..(get ready....)"We're just volunteers" YUP!!! they used the "volunteer" line with me!!! Good Luck Ken......I wish you the best. but past B.S. has tainted the DOA for some forever. Tom Watkins > Jack, > > I can appreciate that in the past. If you look at our current our current board, only three of the eight members are from California. The rest are from Florida, Pennsylvania, Missouri, and Belfast. What once was a California based club has grown to become an International Association. Our regions all across the US are looking for people to become involved. Jack where are you from? > > All the Best, > > Ken Baker > President > DeLorean Owners Association > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Jack Singer<mailto:jack4545@...> > To: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Friday, June 13, 2008 2:10 PM > Subject: Re: [DML] Re: DeLorean Owners Association > > One of my biggest issues with DOA was that you could not hold office or do anything with the group if you did not live in CA. That alone isolated the DOA from most of the country.... > Jack. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > ------------------------------------ To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: moderators@xxxxxxxxxxx For more info on the list, tech articles, cars for sale see www.dmcnews.com To search the archives or view files, log in at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnewsYahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:dmcnews-digest@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx mailto:dmcnews-fullfeatured@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: dmcnews-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/