I'm like Mark V , there are times for the pump, but sludge settles on the bottom of the pan so I like to change the oil when it's hot and the bulk of all the contaminates will come out. Be sure if the car if the car has been lowered on the front that the front is jacked up a little so there is a tilt back If you really want to remove varnish or anything else that may need cleaning out of any engine I use Resilone. Good stuff. John Hervey www.specialtauto.com -----Original Message----- From: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of cbl1739 Sent: Friday, April 11, 2008 3:12 AM To: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [DML] Re: removing oil through the dipstick I don't understand why you would want to flush the oil out in that fashion you "STILL" have to crawl under the car to remove the oil filter. The only reason I could see is if the drain bolt/threads are so screwed up that you do not want to attempt to remove the drain bolt. [moderator snip] ------------------------------------ To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: moderators@xxxxxxxxxxx For more info on the list, tech articles, cars for sale see www.dmcnews.com To search the archives or view files, log in at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnewsYahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:dmcnews-digest@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx mailto:dmcnews-fullfeatured@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: dmcnews-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/