Paul, My solution to loose epoxy has been to get under the car every year or so, pry loose what I can (hefty dental tools seem like the best for this), then spray/saturate everything with the Mercruiser rust inhibitor. That stuff is tailored to hold off rust in the marine/salt water environment, penetrates well,... So far this seems to be working well. Not concours, I'm sure some of the purists shudder reading this, but it seems to do the job. Pete Cameron vin 3579 -----Original Message----- From: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx on behalf of sweetp01569 Sent: Tue 3/11/2008 11:05 AM To: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [DML] Frame Rust - accessing areas from beneath. I have the typical epoxy flaking on corners of frame and surface rust formed. I also have a more serious situation on the front end, where epoxy softened and lifted in areas due to brake fluid leaking for the previous owner. I'd like to get to this, but not sure how to remove the loose epoxy in hidden areas. If I do the best I can with scrapers and screwdrivers, apply POR 15 and then paint, will it be good enough that some deep areas will not get prepared properly? I don't plan to lift or remove the car from the frame and want to do what I can from underneath when on jack stands. I live in MA, but never take the car out in the rain or snow. How critical is it that I repair the rust immediately, since it's not exposed to rain or snow? Will general moisture in the air attack the rust that quickly? Also, if I ask Rob Grady to do this job, does he have better access to the hidden areas, and is it very expensive for him to fix? Thanks, Paul Vin 10944 To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: moderators@xxxxxxxxxxx For more info on the list, tech articles, cars for sale see www.dmcnews.com To search the archives or view files, log in at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: moderators@xxxxxxxxxxx For more info on the list, tech articles, cars for sale see www.dmcnews.com To search the archives or view files, log in at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:dmcnews-digest@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx mailto:dmcnews-fullfeatured@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: dmcnews-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/