Pete, In all fairness I have never seen nor received a response on this bar as having a placebo effect. The only other mention of the word placebo on this list was about Castrol brake fluid and a custom air box (did a search). Please give it a try, as an engineer I believe you owe it to yourself to do so. In addition from all of the 100% positive reviews from people who bought one and installed it the biggest difference that was noted was how the front of the car handled bumpsteer, which is a significant issue on the car. Some said they noticed a slight difference in cornering to a very noticeable difference in cornering (depending on speed) but the bumpsteer was the #1 improvement. I hope you do try it and give your honest feedback. Thanks! Peter Kuchan --- In dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Cameron, Peter" <cameron@...> wrote: > > Tom, > > Reading through the responses on this list, I think at this point I have no choice but to do what you suggest, bolt it on and see if I can feel any difference. My engineering judgement tells me that what we are seeing is what another member of this list suggested - a placebo effect. But just the same, I agree with you. I have to bolt it on and see what happens. > > The person whose judgement I respect the most is Rob Grady. Not really fair of me to ask him to step into this, but just the same I'm quite curious regarding his opinion. Rob - any thoughts on this that you'd be willing to share? If not with the list, then with me off-line? > > Pete > To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: moderators@xxxxxxxxxxx For more info on the list, tech articles, cars for sale see www.dmcnews.com To search the archives or view files, log in at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:dmcnews-digest@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx mailto:dmcnews-fullfeatured@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: dmcnews-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/