Correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't both the car and company originally called DSV for DeLorean Safety Vehicle. As far as the Bricklin goes I would never say anything about them both negative or positive simply because I know absolutely NOTHING about them. The only company and/or car that I don't like are Fords. The only reason I don't like them is because I have been left on the side of the road after I fixed them and when something would break it would be something that if designed differently to begin with wouldn't have broke. Even considering I currently am driving a Ford (Lincoln Mark VIII). Plus, I got rear ended in my ford ranger the person behind me was going like 20 or 25 MPh and the wreck bent the bumper in half, completely collapsed the tail gate, warped the quarter panel, and I have been having back and neck trouble ever sense. Sorry for the rant about Fords there. I would like to add that different people like different cars. People always attack what they don't know about. I run into people all the time that attack the DeLorean simply because they know JACK about the car. Which the same happens for all makes and models. Well thats my 2 cents worth. Dave 6410 PS. Its currently 12:05AM Jan. 1st 2008 Happy New Year everyone!!!! Of course at 88MPh does date and time really matter? Sorry couldn't help it. lol! On Dec 31, 2007 7:26 PM, cbl1739 <cbl302@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Louie, > > I have owned and repaired Salvage Deloreans in the past,and started > my FIRST ground up restore in 1982,yes when DMC was still in > business..and have owned "hard hit" Delorean parts cars,including > one that had a hard hit on the drivers door,which later I fully > unskinned(the door) to see the extent of the interior damage of the > door(I have the pics that I could download to the folders section if > anyone wants to see the "unseen" side of the door. > The ONLY reason why I point out the weak points on the Delorean is > that every time (countless times) of reading on this site how people > belittle the Bricklin,or know very little of the Safety that was > engineered into the Bricklin,and how some people make the Bricklin > sound like a POS(which it is not)it was engineered with and foremost > as a safety vehicle vs Delorean making safety second in front of > style and Finish coming first,(Bricklin put style and finish > secondary)In other words just because this site is for > deloreans,there is NO reason to make the Bricklin sound like a POS > on this site.The bricklin sites DO NOT do that to the > Delorean.Basically I am standing up for the Bricklin by pointing out > the weak points in the delorean. > > I too got T-boned(passenger side) in my Bricklin and outside of a > black Molding coming off(which I was able to clean and reuse)There > was zero(0) damage I even pulled the side panel to check and again > outside of the Molding ZERO damage,since the sill was way higher > than the Delorean the door(or body) did not get any damage at all !! > All the impact was absorbed into the frame. > As you can see in your pics the Door took the brunt of the > impact,had the sill been higher up,you might NOT even have gotten > any door damage(or less side damage) like in my case. > My point was that the Delorean's weak point is it's nose not > necessarily the side since you do have a built in rail inside the > door and a Fiberglass/HD foam crash bar on the side going up and > across the roof to the passenger side and on the front side where > the door Pins/brackets attach.(but the side rail was lowered for > style/access)Also again even the back of the Delorean will fair well > in a back collision.Again I was pointing in a nose collision it will > not fair well at all vs the Bricklin which will fair VERY > well,leaving the passenger cabin in untouched condition. > > Did the frame get any damage/was this car put back on the road? > > Claude > Bricklin > 1024 > Safety Vehicle 1 > > > --- In dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <dmcnews%40yahoogroups.com>, "Louie" > <louie@...> wrote: > > > > I've been watching the banter on this thread for some time, and > could > > no longer sit by and let Claude spew his uninformed > misinformation. I > > feel my two cents are worthwhile to this discussion since I'm one > of > > the very few in the online DeLorean community to total his > DeLorean. I > > was t-boned by a 5,000 pound all-steel Cadillac Fleetwood with > full > > chrome bumpers travelling at roughly 50 mph, and look what > happened to > > my car: > > > > http://www.dmcnews.com/mydmc/10115wreck2_louie.jpg > > http://www.dmcnews.com/mydmc/10115wreck_louie.jpg > > > > My DeLorean was hit so hard that it spun a 180. The passenger > > compartment of my DeLorean was NOT affected by the collision. The > car > > absorbed the entire impact, and I was ~NOT~ hurt. I walked away, > the > > only injury I sustained was a cut on my neck, either from glass or > my > > seatbelt. The biggest gripe I had about the DeLorean's crash > > performance was the underbody was so deflected by the impact that > even > > the passenger door was jambed shut; I had to crawl out the drivers > > window of my car after the wreck. That simply meant that the car > was > > again absorbing the impact INSTEAD OF MY BODY! Everyone expected > me to > > never want to get in a DeLorean again after my wreck, but the > opposite > > was true. I was so impressed with the car's impact performance > that I > > wouldn't have ANY other car after my wreck. I was in a new > DeLorean a > > month after my wreck. I hate to fuel Claude, but I just can't let > him > > assault the DeLorean on something that hits a little to close to > home > > for me. We can all insult the car for various things, but safety I > > feel, is not one of them. > > > > Louie Golden > > Charlotte, NC > > Sometimes DeLorean owner :-) > > > > --- In dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <dmcnews%40yahoogroups.com>, "Farrar > Hudkins" <fhudkins@> wrote: > > > > > > The state of the passengers, not the car, is more important in a > > crash. > > > > > > Farrar Hudkins > > > #2613 > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: moderators@xxxxxxxxxxx For more info on the list, tech articles, cars for sale see www.dmcnews.com To search the archives or view files, log in at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/join (Yahoo! 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