A perfect example of that is the Brake master cylinder,the non orignal one that was was discovered that would fit and work is the one from a Saab..but the braking proporations were way off on it since it was made for a front engined front drive car,but from all visual looks and mechanics it will bolt on and work,BUT not correct and in some cases it could prove to be outright dangerous,and cause loss of control,unlike the OEM Brake master cylinder that was engineered to work with a rear engined car. --- In dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Marc Levy <malevy_nj@...> wrote: > > > There is a big difference between a cross-referenced > part and a "custom made" part. > > A crossed part will likely have the engineering and > knowledge that one would expect from an experienced > company. On the other hand, the crossed part may not > be a exact fit. > > When you deal with a custom made part, the purchaser > has to have a lot of trust in the person that > engineered the part and the company/process used to > make the part. > > If someone is making a decision to use a "new" part > versus a part that has worked reasonably well for 25 > years, it is good to have all the information > available. > > I agree with Dick, that John stands by his reputation > and will always stand by his products. However, if I > buy a defective part from NAPA they have a process in > place with the manufacturer for me to put in a "labor > claim" on a new defective part. In most cases, that > is not possible if the part is used on an application > they do not list. I do not think any of the DeLorean > vendors do this, and I doubt they could afford to. > > Information when buying DeLorean parts is essential to > the customer. John knows this, as he provides lots of > free information on his web site. He clearly tells us > that his alternators are done by a local rebuilder, as > are his performance clutches. His fan fail modules > are custom designed and built.... We can go down the > list of parts he sells, and compare them to the web > site and archives of this list, and see a reasonable > amount of information about how John is able to > provide us the part. I use that information to make > an educated decision on what parts I buy. > > I don't think anyone is asking John for the xref > number, part number, other applications for the > part... just if he is buying some other off the shelf > item that he found would work? or is it a part he had > made himself? > > On the other hand, I am sure John had used the various > X-Ref lists that have been passed around for the past > 25 years to help source parts. > > Either way, Keep up the good work John. Thank you for > providing us with an alternative. > > --- Dick Ryan <deloreanbiker@...> wrote: > > > Maybe - - maybe not. And, in any case, why do any > > of you care. If it > > works, it is good news. If it doesn't, I believe > > that John will > > stand behind it. > > > > I suspect the only reason that this question has > > been asked is so that > > someone can go out and perhaps find it cheaper > > somewhere else. John > > is an independent retail business person. As such, > > if he found it as > > an already existing product (THAT NONE OF YOU WERE > > PREVIOUSLY AWARE > > OF) did the research and if he can make a profit off > > of the time spent > > and from making it known and available to the > > DeLorean community, more > > power to him. > > > > I've not bought a lot of things from John, but when > > I have, he has > > treated me fairly. I'm currently not in the need > > for a main seal, > > front or rear. But, if I were, I suspect that now > > that I know about > > this "find", I'd go for it and I frankly wouldn't > > care whether John > > had it custom made or simply found it already > > existed. > > > > For what it is worth, I'm not necessarily defending > > John. I'm > > defending the independent business person and the > > work they go through > > to eke out a reasonable profit. As most of you > > know, I'm a fiercely > > independent retailer and my hot button has just been > > pushed. > > > > What am I missing? > > > > Dick Ryan > > VIN 16867 > > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ ______________ > Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. > http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs > To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: moderators@xxxxxxxxxxx For more info on the list, tech articles, cars for sale see www.dmcnews.com To search the archives or view files, log in at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews Yahoo! 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