(Moderator's Note: Yep...I'm letting this one through to close out the thread. If you are interested in knowing more about this subject, or arguing it's points further, I recommend contacting the people directly involved. -Josh) All right, I've had enough of the falsehoods. The truth - the facts of this matter - are very straightforward: 1. Many people - myself included - posted long, drawn out political and religious discussions. 2. Many people became upset at these discussions, and many people left the forum over them. 3. Some who remained wanted such discussions banned from the forum. Others didn't. A vote was held. The results were in favor of disallowing said discussions and banning anyone who refused to cooperate. 4. Marc refused to cooperate and was given a temporary ban. 5. Marc refused to cooperate after his temporary ban was lifted and was given a permanent ban. Proof of these events is in the DMCForum archives. Any forum member can read through said archives and view the results of the vote in the polls section. Nobody conspired against Marc. The DMCForum did not become moderated because of Marc, it became moderated because it's members voted to do so - whether they were inspired by Marc's posts to vote in favor of moderation, well, you'd have to ask them. CBL's annoying behavior did not cause the forum to become moderated, it only caused new users to require pre-approval before joining. The DMCForum was not "stolen" from Walt; Walt no longer had time for it and voluntarily handed it over. Walt has an open invitation to take it back; should he so much as say the word, ownership will be immediately returned to him. You can't dispute these truths because they're all in writing, in the forum archives. Anyone who believes Marc's lies need only check these archives to uncover the truth. I trust this post will be the end of this discussion. I highly doubt anyone here really cares, anyway. -Ryan On Nov 28, 2007 11:39 AM, David Teitelbaum <jtrealty@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > I will not get into what happened between the other list and Mark. I > just wanted to mention that as I remember it Mark was not the reason > that other list became moderated. CBL was the reason. As much as some > may want to blame Mark for things this one was not his. > David Teitelbaum > vin 10757 > To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: moderators@xxxxxxxxxxx For more info on the list, tech articles, cars for sale see www.dmcnews.com To search the archives or view files, log in at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:dmcnews-digest@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx mailto:dmcnews-fullfeatured@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: dmcnews-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/