Folks, I think it's all in how you read his post......I didn't take Claude's comment of "not out of the goodness of their heart" as a slam. While our vendors have an unbelievable record of donating their time, talents and energy, it really is a part of being an entrepenuer. You do whatever you have to do to keep your business out there and making money. Rob and Steve are classic examples of the entrepenuerial spirit. I own a movie theater that is currently being rebuilt, I spend 60,70 80 hours or more a week devoted to it so it will be successful. Nobody is going to care more about my business than me. When I donate things I am always looking to see if I can use it as a tax write-off. Sure, I love to be out there promoting my theater and being a part of the community BUT... the tax man takes so much of your money and with our F**ked up tax laws, investments into your business you want to write off are sometimes stretched out over 30 years!!!....I fight with my accountant all the time over nonsense like this. 30 years to write off a new screen? 30 years to write off new Popcorn machine? Come on!!! It won't last that long! Smart men like Rob and Steve surely have even smarter people doing their accounting and know that business trips, donations etc...are ways to lower their profit...at least on paper. It's all a sad game American businesses need to play. I think Claude was just trying to point that aspect out and not trying to flame anyone. I'm sure Claude has no doubt that our vendors have a deep passion for our cars, care for their customers and take away time from their families to indulge all of our collective love for these cars. But as much as they devoted to the marquee, they are first and foremost...businessmen who will do what they must to ensure their livelyhood and keep thier employees with jobs, health insurance etc... It's a heavy burden on a sole proprietor and I applaud anyone who ventures into this insane world of owning a business. We must all be crazy! LOL!! Just trying to flip the coin on this topic to see the other side Peace! Tom To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: moderators@xxxxxxxxxxx For more info on the list, tech articles, cars for sale see www.dmcnews.com To search the archives or view files, log in at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:dmcnews-digest@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx mailto:dmcnews-fullfeatured@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: dmcnews-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/