[DML] Re: New Delorean production....

["David Teitelbaum" <jtrealty@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Now you are a historian and claim to know what JZD and Colin Chapmin
were thinking 30 years ago! You offer a lot of information but no
evidence to back up any of your claims. On your last post you made
claims that could only have been made if you worked for DMCH. Do you?
Or do you just pull this stuff out of the air?
David Teitelbaum
vin 10757



--- In dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "cbl1739" <cbl302@...> wrote:
>
> Basically when JZD went to Lotus Engineering(Porsche was the orignal 
> place he went to)anyway Lotus just outright scrapped the orignal 
> engineering plans for the DMC,and whipped out the Lotus Engineering 
> Drawings/blueprints...and used those for Reference ONLY(not to copy 
> it point to point)and used the tried and proven engineering that 
> went into the Lotus Esprit,and made the required changes to 
> (Reasearch and Development) engineer the basic concept of the 
> backbone frame layout to fit the Delorean,along with the wiring and 
> suspension,and fitting of the(JZD's not Lotus's ideas)Gullwing 
> doors,and the infamous idea 
> of the Damn Golf Bag in the passenger compartment(behind the seats)
> and engineering the Delorean to be a rear enginned car VS the Esprit 
> being a mid engine car.They also used/engineered the same two piece 
> body concept,except in the case of the Esprit,it was finished off as 
> THE FINISHED Body and PAINTED VS the Deloreans two piece body was 
> unfinished(and unpainted)and was covered with the Stainless Steel 
> Body Panels.Basically it was a way for the Cash strapped(at the 
> time) Lotus to cash in big time(by "conning" JZD into buying into 
> using the Lotus Esprit Engineering),by not having to totally R&R a 
> new engineering concept for the Delorean,and therefore using DMC as 
> their Cash Cow and "milking it" for all it's worth.(ie:Getting as 
> much as you can out of the deal,just as JZD did to the British 
> Goverment)
> Hope that explaines it somewhat
> CBL   
> 
> 
> --- In dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, mike.griese@ wrote:
> >
> > The Esprit does not have an identical frame.  They share the 
> > center backbone and trailing link suspension layout, but
> > the front suspension mounts and engine cradle are completely 
> > different.  There is a lot more torsional rigidity in the Esprit
> > frame than in the DeLorean, which is the main issue with 
> > adding significantly more horsepower.  The DeLorean would
> > flex too much, compromising handling.
> > 
> > The reason you can't buy a new Esprit is because it couldn't pass
> > crash testing anymore.  The car had been brought in on waivers
> > since the late 80's and Lotus finally couldn't get them renewed.
> > 
> > --
> > Mike
> > 
> > 
> > -------------- Original message from "Wilson Hitchings" 
> <canon20dfan@>: -------------- 
> > 
> > 
> > > OF COURSE we'd bring all the wiring up to current USA specs. New 
> > > computer & internal electronics. 
> > > 
> > > Ya know, I don't think it's all that wild a notion to re-use the 
> > > existing frame. To my untrained eye, the Lotus Esprit has the 
> identical 
> > > frame & chassis...in fact, a Delorean seems to be an Esprit with 
> gull- 
> > > wing doors. Is anyone challenging the performace of a Lotus? 
> Safety 
> > > certification? OK, do it. Is anyone NOT buying a Boxster or 
> Lotus Elise 
> > > because it doesn't have 8 airbags and a mini-van safety rating? 
> All it 
> > > has to do is PASS. 
> > > 
> > > Please send your donations for a new DMC production plant 
> to...me! 
> > > 
> > 
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>




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