The basic reason people don't attend events is easy if it's not due to money or work commitments. People - either make or break a club. It's the same for all clubs & businesses. That's the reason why members fall away & become disinterested, other people and egos take over and before you know it, fewer members. That's why we should study our history...look at what happened to DeLorean & this marquee car business? Enough said and point proven. Joe -----Original Message----- From: DMCMD@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:DMCMD@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2007 11:45 AM To: DMCMD@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [DMCMD] Digest Number 589 DMC Maryland <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DMCMD;_ylc=X3oDMTJlanFrbWVnBF9TAzk3MzU5Nz E1BGdycElkAzE1OTcxNDE3BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTEyNjIxNQRzZWMDaGRyBHNsawNocGgEc3 RpbWUDMTE4NTI5MTg5OQ--> Messages In This Digest (5 Messages) 1a. Re: OK guys and gals where is everybody? From: Tell you if you ask. 1b. Re: OK guys and gals where is everybody? From: conundrum1984 1c. 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Re: OK guys and gals where is everybody? <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DMCMD/message/2011;_ylc=X3oDMTJyMDUzczVlB F9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzE1OTcxNDE3BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTEyNjIxNQRtc2dJZAMyM DExBHNlYwNkbXNnBHNsawN2bXNnBHN0aW1lAzExODUyOTE4OTk-> Posted by: "Tell you if you ask." racuti1@xxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:racuti1@xxxxxxxxxxxx?Subject= Re%3A%20OK%20guys%20and%20gals%20where%20is%20everybody%3F> cruznmd <http://profiles.yahoo.com/cruznmd> Mon Jul 23, 2007 5:02 am (PST) I'll provide some feedback. I make no promises as to it's usefulness and of course I'm only speaking for myself. 1. I belonged to the DMA for a year and attended one Spring Social. I believe that Maryland essentially represents the "southern fringe" of the DMA's coverage. Most of your members are farther north and it's easier for them to attend your events. Yes, you have an event coming in Delaware, but that's not the norm. Also, I don't intend to offend, but I'm just going to be brutally honest: I found the atmosphere....somewhat less than cordial. That may simply be due to a difference in local cultures. I don't know. 2. Cost -was- a factor for me then. Now it's not, but time is. I've only made it to the "Plakosh Foundation for DeLorean Rehabilitation" twice and a Spring Social, once so getting out of Maryland very often for group functions is difficult for me, just as it is for Jack. By the way, when you mention "people" who are willing to pay for a vendor to come to Maryland, let me correct you: That's one "person" and he happens to be a VP at a company for a living. He owns 2 DeLoreans, one is hopped up and a Dodge "super" charger. He can afford to suggest flying in a vendor. The rest of us are working stiffs and no one else volunteered any such service. 3. The DMA isn't "awful". For a lot of us, it just isn't "practical". It's easier to drive up the road to a fellow owner's house to meet up. The insurance is an interesting point. I guess that it's a nice thing to have but if I have to be protected by insurance to hang out with my "friends" and do work on their cars that -they- have asked for my help with, then I guess they aren't really my friends. I mean really, if you ask for my help KNOWING that I'm not an authorized mechanic or vendor and something goes wrong, who's fault is that? If you're that concerned about the repair then you should take your car to Mt. Joy's or a vendor. I guess we're just a "litigation nation". That's pretty much why I refuse to take a wrench to anyone else's car except my own anymore, or accept anyone's offer of help with my car. I don't want to be responsible and I don't want to blame anyone else. I've also had some bad experiences where it just became "expected" that I would perform work on people's cars. Those experiences made me examine myself and I noticed that I too, was starting to adopt an attitude that certain people would just always be around to help me work on my DeLorean. I didn't like that so I've adopted a "Don't Ask, Don't Help" policy. Since a lot of gatherings are "tech sessions", I opt out and this further reduces my social interaction with the DeLorean community. Now that you have input from a few people, hopefully that will answer your original question: "What is so awful about the DMA?" #5335 --- In DMCMD@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:DMCMD%40yahoogroups.com> , Marc Levy <malevy_nj@...> wrote: > > I know some of you take offense to us "jersey guys", > or "DMA guys" on your list, but as an officer of the > club I am always interested in why someone would not > join the DMA? > > Clearly, it can't be the money.. If people are > willing to pay to fly vendors in and put them in a > hotel, then the $15 for DMA membership is a huge > bargain. > > Attendees at this years spring social had Rob Grady, > Ken Koncelik, and I inspecting cars, adjusting doors, > and doing other small repairs. Everyone was fed a > home cooked lunch and we were well stocked with cold > drinks. All for $15 PER FAMILY! Not to mention the > amazing selection of raffle prizes. 3 couples walked > away winning a weekend away in Boston! > > Now we have the summer run coming up, and again all > members and their families are being fed for free. > > The Fall Tour promises to be another great one (Bernie > and Matt came last year, and seemed to enjoy it), and > will be right in your back yard. > > So, enlighten me.. What is so awful about the DMA? > > > > > __________________________________________________________ ______________ > Looking for a deal? Find great prices on flights and hotels with Yahoo! FareChase. > http://farechase.yahoo.com/ <http://farechase.yahoo.com/> > Back to top Reply to sender <mailto:racuti1@xxxxxxxxxxxx?Subject=Re%3A%20OK%20guys%20and%20gals%20wh ere%20is%20everybody%3F> | Reply to group <mailto:DMCMD@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx?Subject= Re%3A%20OK%20guys%20and%20gals%20where%20is%20everybody%3F> | Reply via web post <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DMCMD/post;_ylc=X3oDMTJya2s3dDhwBF9TAzk3M zU5NzE1BGdycElkAzE1OTcxNDE3BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTEyNjIxNQRtc2dJZAMyMDExBHNlY wNkbXNnBHNsawNycGx5BHN0aW1lAzExODUyOTE4OTk-?act=reply&messageNum=2011> Messages in this topic <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DMCMD/message/1992;_ylc=X3oDMTM2YjhrcDBoB F9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzE1OTcxNDE3BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTEyNjIxNQRtc2dJZAMyM DExBHNlYwNkbXNnBHNsawN2dHBjBHN0aW1lAzExODUyOTE4OTkEdHBjSWQDMTk5Mg--> (24) 1b. Re: OK guys and gals where is everybody? <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DMCMD/message/2012;_ylc=X3oDMTJybm5ibDVhB F9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzE1OTcxNDE3BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTEyNjIxNQRtc2dJZAMyM DEyBHNlYwNkbXNnBHNsawN2bXNnBHN0aW1lAzExODUyOTE4OTk-> Posted by: "conundrum1984" jeepno1_397@xxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:jeepno1_397@xxxxxxxxxxx?Subject= Re%3A%20OK%20guys%20and%20gals%20where%20is%20everybody%3F> conundrum1984 <http://profiles.yahoo.com/conundrum1984> Mon Jul 23, 2007 7:06 am (PST) I wish I could've made it to the DMA Spring Event because the fall tour was fun. Right now I got a problem with time and money to be honest. Things are kind of weird at work and I can't do much about it. There's so much I would like to do to my car and many places I would like to go. I can make it to an event in MD or Pittsburg for a day because either way it is a 2.5 hour drive from where I'm located. 2.5 hours to the nearest active DeLorean memeber too whether it be Pittsbiurg or the eastern part of MD. Anything out of that right now, I'm limited. I would like to see the MD guys have a get together for once though. I miss talking to everyone. What do I need to do? Arrange another trip to see the gold car? Matt VIN: 2953 Frostburg, MD Back to top Reply to sender <mailto:jeepno1_397@xxxxxxxxxxx?Subject=Re%3A%20OK%20guys%20and%20gals%2 0where%20is%20everybody%3F> | Reply to group <mailto:DMCMD@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx?Subject= Re%3A%20OK%20guys%20and%20gals%20where%20is%20everybody%3F> | Reply via web post <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DMCMD/post;_ylc=X3oDMTJya3JidGE4BF9TAzk3M zU5NzE1BGdycElkAzE1OTcxNDE3BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTEyNjIxNQRtc2dJZAMyMDEyBHNlY wNkbXNnBHNsawNycGx5BHN0aW1lAzExODUyOTE4OTk-?act=reply&messageNum=2012> Messages in this topic <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DMCMD/message/1992;_ylc=X3oDMTM2a2ttZThzB F9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzE1OTcxNDE3BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTEyNjIxNQRtc2dJZAMyM DEyBHNlYwNkbXNnBHNsawN2dHBjBHN0aW1lAzExODUyOTE4OTkEdHBjSWQDMTk5Mg--> (24) 1c. Re: OK guys and gals where is everybody? <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DMCMD/message/2013;_ylc=X3oDMTJybzZjN2Z1B F9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzE1OTcxNDE3BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTEyNjIxNQRtc2dJZAMyM DEzBHNlYwNkbXNnBHNsawN2bXNnBHN0aW1lAzExODUyOTE4OTk-> Posted by: "Marc Levy" malevy_nj@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:malevy_nj@xxxxxxxxx?Subject= Re%3A%20OK%20guys%20and%20gals%20where%20is%20everybody%3F> malevy_nj <http://profiles.yahoo.com/malevy_nj> Mon Jul 23, 2007 9:19 am (PST) I would not mind a trip to the gold car. I have seen it before, but would like to meet the owner. maybe we can do the Tucker's too? --- conundrum1984 <jeepno1_397@xxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:jeepno1_397%40hotmail.com> > wrote: > I wish I could've made it to the DMA Spring Event > because the fall > tour was fun. Right now I got a problem with time > and money to be > honest. Things are kind of weird at work and I > can't do much about > it. There's so much I would like to do to my car > and many places I > would like to go. I can make it to an event in MD > or Pittsburg for a > day because either way it is a 2.5 hour drive from > where I'm located. > 2.5 hours to the nearest active DeLorean memeber > too whether it be > Pittsbiurg or the eastern part of MD. Anything out > of that right now, > I'm limited. I would like to see the MD guys have a > get together for > once though. I miss talking to everyone. What do I > need to do? > Arrange another trip to see the gold car? > > Matt > VIN: 2953 > Frostburg, MD > > __________________________________________________________ Got a little couch potato? 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Re: OK guys and gals where is everybody? <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DMCMD/message/2014;_ylc=X3oDMTJyZnB2dnBnB F9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzE1OTcxNDE3BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTEyNjIxNQRtc2dJZAMyM DE0BHNlYwNkbXNnBHNsawN2bXNnBHN0aW1lAzExODUyOTE4OTk-> Posted by: "Kevin Abato" delorean@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:delorean@xxxxxxxxx?Subject= Re%3A%20OK%20guys%20and%20gals%20where%20is%20everybody%3F> iguanajade <http://profiles.yahoo.com/iguanajade> Mon Jul 23, 2007 10:07 am (PST) Never seen the gold car, but would like to! Kevin Abato Vin# 16680 -----Original Message----- From: DMCMD@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:DMCMD%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:DMCMD@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:DMCMD%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of Marc Levy Sent: Monday, July 23, 2007 12:18 PM To: DMCMD@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:DMCMD%40yahoogroups.com> Subject: Re: [DMCMD] Re: OK guys and gals where is everybody? I would not mind a trip to the gold car. I have seen it before, but would like to meet the owner. maybe we can do the Tucker's too? --- conundrum1984 <jeepno1_397@xxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:jeepno1_397%40hotmail.com> > wrote: > I wish I could've made it to the DMA Spring Event because the fall > tour was fun. Right now I got a problem with time and money to be > honest. Things are kind of weird at work and I can't do much about > it. There's so much I would like to do to my car and many places I > would like to go. I can make it to an event in MD or Pittsburg for a > day because either way it is a 2.5 hour drive from where I'm located. > 2.5 hours to the nearest active DeLorean memeber too whether it be > Pittsbiurg or the eastern part of MD. Anything out of that right now, > I'm limited. I would like to see the MD guys have a get together for > once though. I miss talking to everyone. 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