Keep in mind your fans will likely turn on when you turn on the AC. It does increase the load on the engine a bit, and warm the air going across the radiator a bit too, but the net effect in my experience is that the volume of moving air still results in net cooling... ________________________________ From: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Paul J Sent: Friday, May 11, 2007 5:14 PM To: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: RE: [DML] Cooling Fans Not Turning On I had the same problem recently and ended up with the rad cracking and spiting coolant out. Luckily no damage was done to the engine. Im replacing the Rad tomorrow along with the water pump as it was on the way out anyway. I have also wired up a direct switch so that I can switch the fans on as and when I want to in case of any problems. Ive replaced the rear screen switch with one of DMCH on off switches and its really useful. Also changed the temp sensor so hopefully things will work better now. The fans are appearing to kick in at the correct temp now (the rad holds the water unless the engine warms up and is revved so I was able to test the fans carefully) but I don't know if they are going to intermittently work and not work. Will just keep an eye on things. Would anything cause an intermittent fault just to bear in mind. Paul J Belfast #2493 _____ From: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:dmcnews%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:dmcnews%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of Tom Tait Sent: 11 May 2007 20:14 To: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:dmcnews%40yahoogroups.com> Subject: RE: [DML] Cooling Fans Not Turning On In fact, the car need not be running, the key need only be in the run position as I recall. - makes it much easier to hear the fans come on too... ____________-_________-_________-__ From: HYPERLINK "mailto:dmcnews%40yahoogroups.com"dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:HYPERLINK "mailto:dmcnews%40yahoogroups.com"dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of HYPERLINK "mailto:Soma576%40aol.com"Soma576@xxxxxxxx Sent: Friday, May 11, 2007 8:57 AM To: HYPERLINK "mailto:dmcnews%40yahoogroups.com"dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: [DML] Cooling Fans Not Turning On Hi Glen, To test the fans, simply unplug the wires from the otterstat and touch them together while the car is running. The usual safety rules apply!! If they do not come on, check the circuit breaker things in the fuse compartment. They are side by side, one for each fan, and are white, IIRC. If they are blown, the fans may be dying. Andy -----Original Message----- From: HYPERLINK "mailto:jedimasterglenn%40comcast.net"jedimasterglenn@xxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:jedimasterg-lenn%40comcast.-net> To: HYPERLINK "mailto:dmcnews%40yahoogroups.com"dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:dmcnews%-40yahoogroups.-com> Sent: Thu, 10 May 2007 10:22 PM Subject: [DML] Cooling Fans Not Turning On Normally my fans come on right around 210 F. I'm sure both were working until very recently. Sitting in traffic the other day, I noticed they didn't switch on. My temp needle isn't going over the 220 mark, but I'm not sure I trust the reading. I've tried replacing the otterstat and also upgraded to PJ Grady's "little grey box" fan relay fix. I let my car idle for about 20 mins after this, temp needle went to 220 but still no fans. 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