RE: [DML] Rear Calipers on Ebay

["Tom Tait" <TTait@xxxxxxxxxx>]

(note - I'm not an automotive engineer, but this is pretty basic physics
and common sense)

 

If one uses the same brake pads, then the stopping power will be a
factor of how hard those pads are pressed onto the rotor.

 

You could compensate for a smaller piston by pressing harder (5% I'm
guessing without doing the math) and get similar braking results with
the following caveats:

 

If you can't push hard enough to nearly lock up your brakes, then you
are not reaching your full braking power - its' unlikely that 5% would
make a difference for most drivers, but it could.  Once you push hard
enough to lock up the brakes, its all equal anyway.

 

The smaller rear calipers will shift more of your braking power to the
front of the car, but not as much as the saab master would shift it.

 

A smaller caliper pushing into the back of the pad may distribute the
force onto that pad differently than the larger one would, causing
slightly decreased performance or pad life, particularly as the pad
wears thin.

 

How you feel about this stuff depends on how you drive your car, and
what you expect from your brakes that one time every 5 years that this
might make a big difference.

 

My understanding is that the castings are nearly identical, and coming
from the same factory.  Based on the production dates it seems that the
Jag brakes pre-date the Delorean brakes.  What is it about that 5mm
difference that made the original engineer at Delorean, who had to make
the call, decide to go with a new casting and part, rather than an
existing one?  Maybe it was so the parts department at the Delorean
Dealers could charge more for their part, or maybe it really makes a
difference.  

 

They are your brakes, it's your wallet and your butt in the seat.  I'm
not sure myself if the difference is really that important to the casual
driver,  but I think John is doing service to more than his own business
by pointing out that there are differences and letting us all decide if
or how they affect us/

 

Like most things here - you have to make that final determination
yourself.

 

 

From: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of DMCVIN6683
Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2007 7:02 PM
To: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [DML] Rear Calipers on Ebay

 

Why wouldn't these work correctly?

Some of us have been using the wrong Master Cylinder for years with 
no problems that has been proportioned all wrong so who is it to say 
these Calipers wont do the job being 5mm smaller?

Mark V

On Mar 28, 2007, at 6:38 PM, John Hervey wrote:

> Group,
> If you were bidding on or purchased rear calipers on ebay in the last
> month I have some sad new. They are not DeLorean they are Jaguar.
> Don't buy them and don't use them and don't put them on your car
> unless you can confirm they are DeLorean.
> I don't think the seller did it on purpose but I did send an email
> and never got a reply.
> I bought a set and got them in today and confirmed they are Jaguar.
> The difference is the rear Delorean caliper pistons are 48mm in
> diameter and the Jaguar are 43mm in diameter. That doesn't sound like
> much, but it could make a big difference in a jam not having that 
> extra
> 5mm size and volume for stopping.
> Bidder #3 also bought some.
> So be careful and ask before you buy any rear caliper.
> For those of you that have ordered from Autozone or other Box stores,
> you to may have got the wrong part also. I have heard some people
> boasting on other chat groups that they bought DeLorean calipers and
> how much money they saved. I don't think you got DeLorean. You either
> got Mercury Capri on the front and Jaguar on the back.
> John Hervey
> www.deloreanautoparts.com
> www.specialtauto.com


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