A closed system should not be affected by the atmospheric pressure. Generally 134 should run about 10-15% higher pressures than R-12 depending on the condition of the system components. R-12 2.25 lbs 134 2 lbs. The chart in the shop manual tends to be on the low side for ambient air temp. I think for stationary checking, the ambient air temps on the chart should all be about 10 degrees lower for each grade - i.e. 60 SB 50, 70 SB 60, etc. You should monitor the low side pressure and have a temp gauge in the center outlet typically the compressor should cycle (the higher the ambient air the less frequent the cycles) with R-12 around 25-28 psi and 40 degrees at the outlet (R-12). R-134 may be 42 degrees at the outlet - not too far off R-12. Good cooling fans will make the difference for 134. All of this assumes a proper functioning, properly prepared system. The system was made for R-12 - if you can't afford to fix it so it will hold R-12, as it is expensive - use 134 and re-charge every season - no worse than an extra oil change. If you are going to the trouble to fix up the system to be nice and tight to hold freon - I would recommend staying with R-12. Harold McElraft - 3354 --- In dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "John Hervey" <john@...> wrote: > > Andy, If I'm not mistaken your are in the northwest. It could be different > for the altitude. I would leave it to the gauges which will tell the real > story as to what is going on in your system. > John > > > -----Original Message----- > From: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of > Soma576@... > Sent: Friday, March 16, 2007 2:25 PM > To: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: Re: [DML] A/C - switch back to R12? > > Hi John, > > Can you tell me the target pressures for the A/C system and at what ambient > temperature they should be read at, for both R134a and for R12? > > Thanks! > Andy To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: moderators@xxxxxxxxxxx For more info on the list, tech articles, cars for sale see www.dmcnews.com To search the archives or view files, log in at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:dmcnews-digest@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx mailto:dmcnews-fullfeatured@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: dmcnews-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/