The 'free' type metal paint can openers you get at Lowes at the paint counter are good for the prying. Long enough. Blunt and can open a beer in a pinch. deloreanernst@xxxxxxx wrote: In a message dated 3/9/2007 6:40:21 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, wylldshark@xxxxxxxxx writes: I don't want to hurt the firtrees or bend the panel's bottom tabs so what is a safe alternative to the usual way?> You'll be pulling up parallel to the window, so it won't hurt the bottom edge tabs. Fir tree connectors are cheap, will probably be stripped and in need of replacement anyway no matter how carefully you pry off the top panel. I've done it with the window closed, but began anyway by cramming my beefy fingers in at the center and working carefully outward. Wayne A. Ernst vin 11174 Bridgeton, NJ <BR><BR><BR>**************************************<BR> AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] --------------------------------- 8:00? 8:25? 8:40? Find a flick in no time with theYahoo! Search movie showtime shortcut. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: moderators@xxxxxxxxxxx For more info on the list, tech articles, cars for sale see www.dmcnews.com To search the archives or view files, log in at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:dmcnews-digest@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx mailto:dmcnews-fullfeatured@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: dmcnews-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/