Hi Rob, I have recently removed both upper and lower parts of both doors to get to the solenoids. I worked from the from end rear end of the upper panel, gently pulling it upwards until the fir trees give way. Then work towards the middle of the panel. Yes, it helps to have the window down, but it can be done with the window closed. It's a tight spot then and your fingers best be thin as they get a lot of pressure when some firs are still locked in place. Should work for you too. Welmoed. Vita contin git. Vive com eo. From: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Rob Greenhaw Sent: vrijdag 9 maart 2007 06:27 To: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [DML] Safely Removing Upper Door Panel Does anyone have any suggestions on how to safely remove the upper door panel when your window will not go down? I need to get in there to investigate what needs to be done inside; the manual says to do the window down and then pull up on the panel but my driver's side window does not roll down. The motor makes that clickety sound. I don't want to hurt the firtrees or bend the panel's bottom tabs so what is a safe alternative to the usual way? Thanks, Rob Greenhaw VIN 791 "LUKITME" --------------------------------- No need to miss a message. Get email on-the-go with Yahoo! Mail for Mobile. Get started. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: moderators@xxxxxxxxxxx For more info on the list, tech articles, cars for sale see www.dmcnews.com To search the archives or view files, log in at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:dmcnews-digest@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx mailto:dmcnews-fullfeatured@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: dmcnews-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/