RE: [DML] DCS 2010

["Jack Stiefel" <jack@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

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Yet again why has this turned into a "my city is better" Or "your city sucks compared to mine"?

 

I am sorry Disney World did not live up to your expectations and I don't know where you live, but please find below some attractions beyond necessarily Disney to see in Orlando.  I am sure each and every one of these 207 things are found close to you, but for the benefit of others please read.  There are other reasons why CENTRAL (not South) Florida is the Number 1 tourist destination in the US.  Also remember we are looking at Universal Studios for the show - have you been bored by that too?

 

Again I am not sure how it was reduced to this, I was not pushing for any city down here necessarily, just wondering why St. Louis was so important, and you answered a good point - centrally located.  And if you really read my posts before getting agitated by one part, you would notice I have mentioned many MANY cities further North where this show could be held.

 

Can anyone please explain why all anyone can do is bash where I live when responding to a question about possible locations for a show to be held in 3 years?

 

Please enjoy some light reading on what there is to do in Orlando including but above and beyond Disney:

 


207 Things To Do in Orlando in 2007


Whether you're a first-time visitor or a seasoned Orlando vacationer, this list will surely provide a few unique ideas for what to do in Orlando during 2007 and beyond. For more information on any of the following activities, contact the Official Visitor Center at 407-363-5872 and speak to an Official Travel Counselor. Or, stop by in person. The Official Visitor Center is conveniently located at 8723 International Drive on the southeast corner of International Drive and Austrian Row.

1. Slip into the water with a beluga whale at SeaWorld Orlando.
2. Learn to surf without going to the beach at Ron Jon's Surfpark, opening summer 2007.
3. Paddle a swan boat on Lake Eola.
4. Smell the roses at Harry P. Leu Gardens.
5. Cast a line for bass fishing with a guide.
6. Marvel at Tiffany glass at The Charles Hosmer Morse Museum of American Art (left )
7. Find Chief Osceola in the mural at Celebration Hotel.
8. Touch a stingray at SeaWorld Orlando.
9. Experience the thrill of stampeding buffalo at Dolly Parton's Dixie Stampede Dinner & Show.
10. Count the manatees at Blue Springs State Park.
11. Race your friends on go-karts at Fun Spot Action Park.
12. Explore the headwaters of the Florida Everglades on an Orlando airboat adventure.
13. Drive a stock car at 125 mph (201 km/h) at Richard Petty Driving Experience.
14. Tour the world in under a mile at Epcot.
15. Go whale watching at Port Canaveral.
16. Dine at the world's largest Hard Rock Cafe.
17. View the stars from the largest refractor telescope in Florida at the Orlando Science Center.
18. Get a taste of Hawaiian fusion at Roy's Restaurant.
19. Float over the area in a hot air balloon.
20. Treat yourself to "a little something" at Tiffany & Co., Cartier, Jimmy Choo or Coach at The Mall at Millenia.
21. Feel the G-forces on a roller coaster at Universal's Islands of Adventure (left).
22. Swim with the dolphins at Discovery Cove.
23. Play golf on the same courses as Tiger Woods.
24. Design and ride your own roller coaster at WonderWorks and DisneyQuest.
25. Build your own teddy bear at The Florida Mall.
26. Rock out to the sounds of hot new bands at the Florida Music Festival.
27. See the weird and wild at Ripley's Believe It or Not! Orlando Odditorium.
28. Play glow-in-the-dark mini golf at Putting Edge in the Festival Bay Mall.
29. Learn to water-ski at the Orlando Watersports Complex or Buena Vista Watersports.
30. Go antiquing on Orange Avenue and in Mount Dora.
31. Body surf at Wet 'n Wild Orlando or Disney's Typhoon Lagoon Water Park.
32. Hold a gator or snake at Gatorland.
33. See the Bible come to life at WordSpring Discovery Center and The Holy Land Experience.
34. Uncover bargains at flea markets.
35. Gamble in international waters on Sterling Casino and SunCruz Casino cruise lines.
36. Jam at Bob Marley's open-air house at Universal CityWalk.
37. Capture the grace of dance at an Orlando Ballet production.
38. Get spooked every day of the year at Terror in Orlando.
39. Take an art class at Crealdé School of Art or Maitland Art Center.
40. Sample some of the nearly 150 wines sold by the ounce through high-tech Enomatic dispensing marchines at The Wine Room in Winter Park.
41. Recapture the history of the Seminole Indian War at Fort Christmas.
42. Play in snow during Christmastime at Celebration.
43. Be rescued by Arnold Schwarzenegger at Terminator 2: 3D.
44. Visit Key West, St. Augustine, and the Everglades under one roof at Gaylord Palms Resort & Convention Center.
45. Watch golf greats at a PGA TOUR or LPGA Tour event.
46. Pedal down the Atlantic boardwalk at Disney's BoardWalk.
47. Pick an orange from a tree.
48. Glide gently back to solid ground after your first hang gliding experience at Wallaby Ranch Hang Gliding Flight Park.
49. Battle comic villains with Spider-Man at Universal Orlando Resort.
50. Sip a specialty martini at Blue Martini.
51. Taste local wines at Lakeridge Winery.
52. Test new toys at Disney's Once Upon a Toy.
53. Escape the Yeti on Expedition Everest at Disney's Animal Kingdom Park (left).
54. Cause a margarita volcano to erupt at Universal CityWalk.
55. Be a clown during Cirque du Soleil.
56. Dine with characters at your favorite theme park.
57. Swim in 72 F (22 C) water year-round at Wekiwa Springs.
58. Eat fries at the McDonalds with the world's largest PlayPlace.
59. Learn country line dancing at Cowboys Orlando.
60. Visit the oldest African-American municipality - Eatonville.
61. Catch Atlanta Braves' spring baseball training or Tampa Bay Buccaneer's football training camp at Disney's Wide World of Sports Complex.
62. Savor Italian ice cream at the Portofino Bay Hotel.
63. Shake hands with the most famous mouse in the world - Mickey!
64. Survive a psychological thrill on The Mummy at Universal Orlando.
65. Pose for a photo with a four-story Big Wheel bike at Disney's Pop Century Resort.
66. Learn to Salsa and Merengue at Latin Quarter.
67. Shop for surf gear 24 hours a day at Ron Jon's Surf Shop in Cocoa Beach.
68. Learn the delicate art of glass-blowing at CityArts Factory in downtown Orlando.
69. Enjoy a carillon concert at Historic Bok Sanctuary.
70. Find your birthday in the tile floor at The Mall at Millenia.
71. Tour International Drive on an I-Ride Trolley.
72. Meet the residents of Pine Valley, Port Charles and Llanview at ABC's Super Soap Weekend at Disney-MGM Studios.
73. See the movies come to life at Universal Studios.
74. Train like an astronaut at the Astronaut Hall of Fame.
75. Buy top goods at great prices at the area's outlet centers (left).
76. Savor the real key lime pie - it's yellow!
77. Dine outside year-round.
78. Learn to skydive indoors at SkyVenture Orlando.
79. Trade pins at Epcot.
80. Select a stogie from the 1.5 million cigars at Corona Cigar Company.
81. Watch Magic Kingdom fireworks from California Grill at Disney's Contemporary Resort.
82. Touch an iceberg at Titanic ~ The Exhibition.
83. Test your BMX skills at Vans Skatepark.
84. View American folk art at House of Blues.
85. Learn to hula dance at a luau.
86. Shoot hoops at NBA City.
87. Milk a cow at Green Meadows Petting Farm.
88. Feel the force of an earthquake at WonderWorks.
89. Come face-to-face with Jaws.
90. Enjoy breakfast in bed - in public - at The Beacon, a trendy restaurant and nightclub in Thornton Park.
91. Ride the famous glass-bottom boats at Silver Springs.
92. Build an animal, car or anything else at LEGO Imagination Center.
93. Find animals in the Tree of Life at Disney's Animal Kingdom.
94. Feel the "conga beat" at Gloria Estefan's restaurant, Bongos Cuban Café.
95. Parasail above Central Florida's chain of lakes.
96. Head under the sea in a clamobile with Nemo and his friends at Epcot.
97. Marvel at mansions as you boat through lakes and canals in Winter Park.
98. Grill your own pancakes in an old sugar mill at DeLeon Springs.
99. Relax at one of 16 destination spas.
100. "Praise the Lord and pass the biscuits" at the gospel brunch at House of Blues.
101. Stand on the highest point in Florida - Iron Mountain at Historic Bok Sanctuary.
102. Get married with Mickey as your best man or Minnie as your maid of honor.
103. Drop 13 stories on Tower of Terror at Disney-MGM Studios.
104. Perform as a duck master during the Duck March at The Peabody Orlando.
105. Putt-putt through wild animals and pirates.
106. Cheer on a cowboy at Silver Spurs Rodeo.
107. Be surrounded in your own in-hotel room theatre.
108. Be a marine life trainer for a day at SeaWorld Orlando.
109. Eat space food at Kennedy Space Center Visitor Complex (left).
110. Wrap up in seaweed at one of the area spas.
111. Be serenaded by a singing waiter at Bergamo's Italian Restaurant.
112. Get shrunk at Disney-MGM Studios.
113. Take in a moo-ving play at the Mad Cow Theatre.
114. Rev your engines at a NASCAR race.
115. Become a part of the skyline at Manuel's on the 28th.
116. Taste gator bites and gator ribs at Gatorland.
117. Purchase discount attraction tickets at Orlando's Official Visitor Center.
118. Shop at one of nine regional shopping malls.
119. Buy fresh produce at farmer's markets.
120. Discover the lost city of Atlantis at SeaWorld Orlando.
121. Go hog wild and rent a Harley-Davidson.
122. Dine at a restaurant owned by 13 famous race car legends.
123. Watch Walter Farley's Black Stallion at Arabian Nights.
124. Get chased by a chain saw gang during Halloween Horror Nights.
125. Discover a bird's eye view from a helicopter.
126. Solve a mystery at Sleuths Mystery Dinner Shows.
127. Try to find a straight line at Seuss Landing.
128. Plummet 120 feet (37 meters) on a water slide at Disney's Blizzard Beach Water Park.
129. Team up to protect your home base during laser tag.
130. Share the spotlight at SAK Comedy Lab.
131. Rock out to an impromptu concert by The Blues Brothers at Universal Studios Florida.
132. Dine in Cinderella's castle at Disney's Magic Kingdom.
133. Cook your own food at The Melting Pot.
134. Walk down New York Avenue at Universal Studios.
135. Launch into space on Mission: SPACE at Disney's Epcot.
136. Sharpen your golf skills at one of 23 academies.
137. Improve your game with tennis lessons.
138. Enjoy fireworks every night.
139. See otters and manatees on a kayaking adventure.
140. Be part of the pit crew at Daytona USA.
141. Bask in the sun.
142. Enjoy the opera or the philharmonic.
143. See the newest independent films at the Enzian Theater, home of the Florida Film Festival.
144. View jewelry created by local artists at the Grand Bohemian Gallery.
145. Buy your last-minute gifts at one of the airport's many shops.
146. Dance on a spinning dance floor at Mannequins.
147. Drink a pint and eat fish and chips at Cricketers Arms Pub and Eatery or Raglan Road Irish Pub and Restaurant.
148. Observe downtown Orlando at night from its rooftop bars - Latitudes & Sky60.
149. Become a Shamu "splash victim."
150. Feed and bark back at sea lions.
151. Become a crash-test dummy at Test Track at Epcot.
152. Watch top recording artists perform at House of Blues or Hard Rock Live.
153. Play Frisbee golf at Barnett Park.
154. Go rollerblading at West Orange Trail.
155. Ride the largest, fastest, tallest roller coaster in Orlando at SeaWorld Orlando.
156. Come face-to-face with wild animals at Busch Gardens Africa in Tampa Bay.
157. Come this close to a predator of the deep at Sharks Underwater Grill at SeaWorld (left).
158. Eat sweet corn at the Zellwood Sweet Corn Festival.
159. Hang out with Shrek at Universal Studios.
160. See International Drive upside down from a window at WonderWorks.
161. Dine with an astronaut at Kennedy Space Center Visitor Complex.
162. Relax on a white sand beach.
163. Learn how to draw a cartoon at The Magic of Disney Animation at Disney-MGM Studios.
164. Become a particle of food at the Orlando Science Center.
165. Keep the beat with the incomparable Blue Man Group at Universal Orlando Resort - starting in summer 2007.
166. Gaze out on an African savannah at Disney's Animal Kingdom Lodge.
167. Listen to rock 'n' roll music under water at the Hard Rock Hotel at Universal Orlando Resort.
168. Fly through the air on the sky coaster at Old Town Shopping, Dining & Entertainment Attraction.
169. Cheer on your knight at Medieval Times.
170. Pose for the cover of your favorite magazine.
171. Spot bald eagles and blue herons on Orlando's lakes.
172. Hear the tales of great African-American musicians at the Wells' Built Hotel.
173. Bring home a can of moon soup from Chalet Suzanne.
174. Experience Central Florida's natural beauty on horseback.
175. Sleep in a castle.
176. View the workings of a movie studio's costume department.
177. Bask in the moonlight during a pedicab ride on International Drive.
178. Place your bet at a Jai-Alai game.
179. Celebrate your heritage, whether Irish, Italian, Greek, Native American or Polish at local festivals.
180. Learn more about the history of Orlando and the definition of a "cracker" at the Orange County Regional History Center.
181. Go on an African safari at Disney's Animal Kingdom.
182. Careen through the streets of Hollywood on Rock 'n Roller Coaster starring Aerosmith at Disney-MGM Studios.
183. Eat lunch or dinner at a drive-in theatre at Disney-MGM Studios.
184. Enjoy a luxurious, citrus-themed spa treatment at The Ritz-Carlton Spa, Grande Lakes (left).
185. Laugh along with top names in comedy at the Orlando Improv or Dottie's Orlando Comedy Theater.
186. Set sail for a lunch or dinner cruise down the St. Johns River on the Rivership Romance.
187. "Ooh and aah" during the famous water-ski show at Cypress Gardens Adventure Park.
188. Sing along with the crowd at a dueling piano bar at Howl at the Moon Orlando.
189. Crash a hilarious Italian-American wedding at Tony 'n Tina's Wedding - opening on Valentine's Day 2007.
190. Capture the checkered flag in a NASCAR simulator at Full Speed Race & Golf.
191. Buy art off the walls at Café Tu Tu Tango.
192. Get a make-over from a Fairy Godmother-in-training at the Bibbidi Bobbidi Boutique at Downtown Disney.
193. Share the "kitchen sink" at Disney's Beaches & Cream Soda Shop.
194. Defend the world against aliens at MEN IN BLACK Alien Attack at Universal Studios.
195. Dine in a private "snug" at McCormick & Schmick's Seafood Restaurant.
196. Watch sea turtles hatch on the coast.
197. Eat fresh, local strawberries in the middle of winter.
198. Walk under a monster truck at Race Rock Supercharged Restaurant.
199. Have a psychic reading at the Cassadaga Spiritualist Camp.
200. See the caricatures of celebrities and famous Orlando residents at The Palm Orlando and Jack's Place (left).
201. Eat breakfast with Dora the Explorer or SpongeBob SquarePants at Nickelodeon Family Suites.
202. Picnic on the shores of Lake Eola.
203. Accelerate to 120 mph (201 km/h) in under two seconds at G Force Drag Racing.
204. Get your face painted at one of many area festivals.
205. Hang glide above California's redwood forests at Epcot's Soarin'.
206.  Spot sneeches on the High in the Sky Seuss Trolley Train Ride at Universal's Islands of Adventure.
207. Make memories of a lifetime . . .

 

Jack Stiefel

Stiefel Aluminum

DMC Vin 03461 & 16879

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From: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Qume Fox
Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2007 11:01 AM
To: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [DML] DCS 2010

 


The main reason St. Louis keeps coming up is because it's central to 
a hell of alot more of the country than south florida. Personally 
i've been to Orlando twice. I don't really have any interest in going 
back. There was nothing there that can't be found closer to me 
besides disneyworld, and after you've seen the whole place twice, 
that gets old as well. 

Chris
VIN #3209

 



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