There is a balance between the power of the torsion bar and the strut. After a lot of experimentation and input from vendors I came up with a rough way to tell if you needed a strut without having to try a new strut. I called it the "hang" test. If the door hangs all the way down to the sill and the strut you use holds it all the way open then IMHO the torsion bar is set on the weak side and the strut is on the overly powerful side. You MUST strike a balance, Too much strut is very bad on the strut anchors and too much torsion bar is going to be too much on the roof structure. Having the doors "bounce" is "a very bad thing". The leverage and the magnitude of the forces is tremendous and will eventually damage the roof structure. Pull the strut off and the door should hang open between 2 and 6 inches approx from the sill to the edge of the door. This is NOT temperature dependant. If the door falls to the sill the torsion bar needs at least 1 spline tighter. If it hangs open more than 6 inches release a spline. Now try the strut. If it bounces hard the strut is too strong! If, when you open the door it doesn't open fully push it open. If it stays all the way up without droopng that is just the way I like it. It should not fall but it CAN'T bounce (at around 70 degress F). I know it won't be enough for those with actuators and want to see the doors pop open all the way. You can't please everybody but bouncing the doors is BAD. Figure on replacing the struts every 5 years like a battery. Also watch out for the struts that were too long when closed. They wrecked many anchors on a lot of doors. I think they are all gone by now but you never know! If you don't get your struts from a Delorean vendor then YOU must know if they will be the correct length and power. Never adjust the torsion bar to compensate for a strut that is too weak or too powerful. In fact once a torsion bar is properly adjusted it should never need to be adjusted again. If the door won't stay up once the torsion bar is set correctly then all you need do is replace the strut! I have been doing the door adjustments for the local club for years, In the past (before me) many cars were overtightened to compensate for weak struts. Since I have done most of the cars more often than not they now need struts, not torsion bar adjustments. If I do have to adjust I now find myself loosening the torsion bar. Now most of the door adjustment complaints are the latching pins because of dead, missing, torn door seals or internal adjustments because a door was slammed or forced. David Teitelbaum vin 10757 --- In dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Todd Nelson" <todd@...> wrote: > > Bruce, > > I've noticed this too. When I first bought my car a couple of years ago the > struts were long gone. I bought new ones from a vendor and they both opened > much better. So much in fact the drivers side seemed to bounce on hot > summer days. I then adjusted the torsion bars so they both open nice and > easy, gliding to the top on an average day, 70 degrees. But I've also > noticed when taking the struts off for storage that the doors will fall all > the way down to the sill. I've always figured this would mean less of a > load on the roof structure since the T-bars are not as tight, so a good > thing. But maybe I'm putting too much load on the ball-studs because of > this? Any opinions anyone? > To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: moderators@xxxxxxxxxxx For more info on the list, tech articles, cars for sale see www.dmcnews.com To search the archives or view files, log in at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:dmcnews-digest@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx mailto:dmcnews-fullfeatured@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: dmcnews-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/