Sean I've done them both ways, there are advantages to either. The engine and trans can be removed as a unit, but my recollection is that getting it back in that way was tricky on an automatic. It's a pretty tight fit. Take the dipstick tube out before you start and put it back in after the trans/engine is in the car. If you need both out, pulling it out together it's probably the way to go. If you take them out separately (engine first, trans first, doesn't really matter but in either case take the muffler off first) you can avoid taking off the rear facia, but you will be faced with taking the crossover pipe off in the car as opposed to the comfort of your garage floor. The main thing to remember before you do either is to remove the bottom and driver side cover plates that are screwed to the bellhousing, otherwise they hang up on the flywheel. In their normal position in the car they are almost invisible. PS - I'm curious about "tools are not an option" - it's pretty hard to get the bellhousing bolts out with just your fingers. You will need tools. Dave S --- In dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Sean" <sweitzel@...> wrote: > > Short story, I came across #6597 November, auto, gray for sale > recently and now it is in my posession. I'm going to be > restoring/refurbishing it for a family member. The exterior stainless, > fiberglass tub and frame are in excellent shape. The interior is > trashed and the drivetrain needs a lot of work and updates. > > I learned a lot restoring my own car #3231 and did all the work to it > with the engine and transmission still in the car (even the TABS!) I > want to pull the engine and tranmission out of this car to do most of > the work this time. I have a proper cherry picker and engine stand, so > tools are not an option. I gues what I am asking is if there are 1, > can the engine and tranmission be removed as one piece or must the > engine come out before the trans. 2, anything specific to watch out > for? any particular methods someone can share or should I go with > what's in the service manual? > To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: moderators@xxxxxxxxxxx For more info on the list, tech articles, cars for sale see www.dmcnews.com To search the archives or view files, log in at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:dmcnews-digest@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx mailto:dmcnews-fullfeatured@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: dmcnews-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/