The 3 litre turbo alpine (sorry to keep droning on about it) was *measured* at 43hp loss in the transmission. This is achieved by the rollers measuring how quickly they slow down when the throttle is lifted and the clutch pressed. However the drag of a transmission isn't the same (wheels driving transmission) as when the engine is driving the wheels - but it's a good ballpark However I've heard figures up to 60hp claimed for a UN1 Martin Marc Levy wrote: > > If you are saying we should all speak in terms of > engine horsepower, what loss factor should we > calculate for the drive train? I have heard some > people claim it is a percentage, and others say it is > a constant for any given vehicle (with the same drive > train). > > If we do a comparison of the stock number to DMCH > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: moderators@xxxxxxxxxxx For more info on the list, tech articles, cars for sale see www.dmcnews.com To search the archives or view files, log in at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:dmcnews-digest@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx mailto:dmcnews-fullfeatured@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: dmcnews-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/