We have seen a fair amount of discussions on this subject, but many of them are opinions and presumed logic. The engineering facts are: A "barrier test" and a head-on collisions in this argument are fundamentally different. While in both instances the vehicle(s) will theoretically stop upon collision (assuming equal masses in the case of a head-on), the crash speed is cumulative. IE: if barrier = 40 mph, head-on = 80 mph = 40 mph + 40 mph. This is easier to imagine if you consider the amount of energy involved in a crash (energy/power balance)... the momentum (power) associated with a "barrier" collision is equal to the speed times the mass of the one vehicle (say 40 mph*1500 lbs= 60,000 mile-pounds per hour, or a somewhat more standard 11.36 ft-lb[mass]/hr), while the head-on involves twice the velocity and twice the mass (effectively 2*11.36 fl-lbs[mass]/hr). Thus twice the energy is dissipated in a head-on than in a "barrier" collision. Think about which would make a bigger bang (or try it!)... sliding one block into a solid wall, or sliding two blocks (at the same speed) into each other... try putting your finger in between them, and tell me which one hurts more. Roger Brogren VIN 1074 To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: moderators@xxxxxxxxxxx For more info on the list, tech articles, cars for sale see www.dmcnews.com To search the archives or view files, log in at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:dmcnews-digest@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx mailto:dmcnews-fullfeatured@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: dmcnews-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/