I wasn't even going to respond to this opinion-laden statement but I haven't figured out how to nail my hands to my desktop yet. My statement was full of the facts of my actual ownership experience. These things have actually happened to me. Your statement is long on opinion and conjecture and short on fact. The only fact I could find in your statement was your actual experience of reliabily with your own cars. What do you want me to say tux? After busting my wallet and my knuckles on the car for 10 straight months (4 years ago), it doesn't give me problems. I get in, I turn the key, it starts and I drive it. It doesn't matter if it's 11 degrees or 101 degrees. The A/C blows cold, the idle doesn't hunt, the Lambda system is correctly tuned. It doesnt' just "run". It runs correctly and well. I've driven it for 3.5 years. I don't know what record of trouble-free driving would suit your opinion of reliablity. In fact, my good friend Mike Cohee's car has been just as reliable for him over roughly the same amount of time. We drive our cars more or less the same amount, which is somewhere in between "daily driver" and "garage queen". If your DeLoreans have not been reliable for you perhaps yours, or your local mechanic's skills are not up to par, or your maintenance and repair methodology requires adjustment. I don't really appreciate you speaking for me when you state that "we ALL" like the looks and attention it gets. I neither dislike nor like the attention. It's simply a by-product of ownership. I did NOT buy the car for what anyone else would think of it. In fact, you've no idea how many friends and family tried to discourage me from buying it. The reasons were many: "It's an orphan, you'll never find parts". "BTTF is so nerdy", "DeLorean trafficked drugs" Blah blah blah. I own MY car, for ME. I don't drive the car hoping DeLorean fans will pay attention to me, or fishing for compliments. Frankly, I'd rather be left alone. When I feel the urge to discuss the DeLorean socially, I attend a DeLorean social event with other owners. Don't lump me into some generic owner pigeon-hole that you've developed in your own mind. Lastly, why even ask -me- why people are hostile towards the car? If you're implying that it's my attitude towards people, I doubt that's the cause. In many of the negative experiences I've had, people have done or said something negative about or to the car without even exchanging words with me. Hell, I've had total strangers follow me home and pull right into my driveway to argue about the car! That incident was nearly worth of a 911 call. Fortunately it didn't come to that. Anyway my point is, speak for yourself, not for me. My car works great and I didn't buy it because my ego needs stroking from gas- station admirers. Rich A. #5335 --- In dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "tuxr" <tuxdarby@...> wrote: > > As reliable as a Camry??? Come on, we all like the car, but it > never was, isn't currently, and never will be as reliable as a camry > or any other modern car, no matter how much time and money is put > into it. And we ALL like the looks and attention it gets, we don't > own it for "us" and "no one else". And I've had two, driven alot, > have never had encountered "extreme hostility". Why are people > extremely hostile to you when you drive the car? > > --- In dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Tell you if you ask." <racuti1@> > wrote: > > > > And now for a "reality check", > > > > I agree with most of what the guys have said about reliability and > > maintaining the car. You'll buy one, you'll fight with it for a > year > > or 2, replace a bunch of parts and then it'll be as reliable as > your > > Camry. > > To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: moderators@xxxxxxxxxxx For more info on the list, tech articles, cars for sale see www.dmcnews.com To search the archives or view files, log in at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: dmcnews-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/