Hi All Harking back to a week prior to Eurofest, I posted some photos of my friend Rich's #2727 twin turbo engine that we've been building. Quick synopsis: 2458cc Renault 25 Turbo even fire EFI engine built into DeLorean block with a couple of Alpine GTA bits and an Island twin turbo kit. We added a pair of intercoolers and just prior to Eurofest, fell foul of a dead turbo (mucho smoko). The project has been on hold while other tasks were cleared following three shows on the trot but in the past week, she's had a couple of donor turbos fitted from Mazda 323's (still the IHI RHB52 but water cooled - chosen for the capacity of the donor engine (1.5 litre) and the factory boost of 9psi). No photos because, frankly, it looks exactly mthe same as the ones I posted back then... http://www.delorean.co.uk/DSCN2233.JPG http://www.delorean.co.uk/DSCN2234.JPG http://www.delorean.co.uk/DSCN2235.JPG http://www.delorean.co.uk/DSCN2236.JPG http://www.delorean.co.uk/DSCN2237.JPG ...but it sure as hell goes better. Currently we have the map that was created on the rolling road under normal aspiration, and an ignition map from some other engine set with a MAP limit of 2 bar (1 bar of boost). The MAP sensor Rich bought for the engine is from a Ford Cosworth and in calibration, we discovered it will actually measure nearly 20psi of boost despite being a 2 bar sensor (do you like the constantly flicking between bar and PSI? :-) The ecu we're using has an adaptive mode, and with the addition of a bosch wideband lambda sensor, does a remarkable job of writing its own map based purely on driving the thing. We decided to take the car on a 4 mile trip to the nearest petrol station and Rich drove while I watched the ECU outputs like a hawk. This was on the hottest July day since records began..... on a turbo car running high boost..... yikes. (just shy of 100F). I say Yikes because I have a live readout of Manifold Air Temperature and as the boost approached 15 psi (1 bar), the ECU was telling me we had air at nearly 80 degrees C entering the engine (176F). I think those intercoolers are going to be moved downwards... After a bit of wastegate messing, we got it limiting at first 3psi, then 8psi, then hitting the ECU's boost limit (set to 200kPa - well the software works in kPa - keep up!) at 5000rpm. Gutless at bottom end, and obviously in need of a proper tuning session, I am however happy to report that it shows all the signs of being a very quick car. The boost comes in at as low as 1200rpm, and will really benefit from an ECU controlled boost control valve to stop the wastegates opening at all till the target boost is reached - currently it's lovely and progressive but I'm sure we can gain some torque with more boost lower down in the revs. And much as I hate the film, the fast'n'furious dump valve noises really put a grin on yer face in a DeLorean :-D Martin To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: moderators@xxxxxxxxxxx For more info on the list, tech articles, cars for sale see www.dmcnews.com To search the archives or view files, log in at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: dmcnews-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/