My Optima batteries weren't sitting in my DeLorean. My DeLorean is used on a daily basis and both of the Optima batteries failed under normal use. I believe they are manufactured and poorly designed internally and the failures are of the spiral plates and/or the cells. The Optimasare stronger than the standard lead acid batteries when they do work which is the reason why many were lead to believe that they are excellent batteries in the beginning. As time marches on, the failure of the Optima batteries mounts up as many of the DMLers have expressed. I find that their pro rated program doesn't merit the usage time when calculated, for the amount calculated usually end up costing almost the same as a new battery discounted on an outright purchase. That is the reason why I brought the Yellow one and hoping that it will serve my DeLorean's needs better -- Wrong again! I personally don't like the hassle in dealing with any of the product's warranty program. I have approached the idea to purchased the best battery with the attitude as "price is no object" as long as it is efficient and the Optimas batteries were indeed advertised to be just such. I want a product that works and not to be fail me in the time when needed and as well as putting me to the aggravation to return the failed product. I also don?t understand the reasons why there is a need in charging them periodically when Optima boasts the greatness of the new modern ?spiral gel cell? technology. Now the other issue is that the alternators fitted in our DeLoreans may not have the high output that is suggested in charging them, so could this possibly be adding to their early demise? One of the factors in my decision in the purchasing of the Optima batteries for I was also told that they are used in the NYC EMS vehicles to supply the necessary power to run all the many medical equipments that is on board. I wonder how many failed batteries the NYC EMS vehicles have or what is their percentage of failure, for the Optima batteries don't seem to last in our DeLoreans' by all of the many DMLers who wrote in. A Sears Gold Label in my DeLorean for thirty months and still going strong...... and if it dies, I can go to the nearest Sears for a pro rated adjustment or buy a new one at a little more then half the cost of the Optimas..... Kayo Ong #5508 Lic 9D NY On Jun 25, 2006, at 4:02 PM, Ryan Wright wrote: > Curious, I wonder how many of you drive your cars regularly and > still have > problems with the Optimas? Is it possible the batteries just don't > like to > sit? Do they discharge more quickly when not in use, or are they > otherwise > less tolerant of being discharged too low? > > Does anyone really know the actual reason so many have had problems > with > them? > > -Ryan > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: moderators@xxxxxxxxxxx For more info on the list, tech articles, cars for sale see www.dmcnews.com To search the archives or view files, log in at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: dmcnews-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/