Marv, I did the patent search you recommended. Wow. DeLorean's name appears on at least 215 patents going back to his days at Packard. I don't think anyone has ever stated this. Unfortunately, non of the images were of help for my purposes. I am going to be adding full size power windows to Ryan's D and want to start a video pod cast of the process and engineering details. Bob To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: moderators@xxxxxxxxxxx For more info on the list, tech articles, cars for sale see www.dmcnews.com To search the archives or view files, log in at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: dmcnews-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/