Hi Dave, In one word?.YES. IMHO, and to put it as politely as possible, Optima batteries suck! When we experienced the same problems as you (about five or so years ago) I was told by one of their engineers that the batteries needed to be charged (at 100AMPS !!!!) for a few hours! They sent me a euro-spec charger from the factory and I bought a 120V converter. After making sure our business insurance was up to date I plugged the whole mess into an outlet and waited to see what would happen. After twenty minutes the battery started to smoke like it was going to explode. So ended my affiliation, and any recommendation I could make, with Optima batteries. They are great until the first time they lose their charge and then BUYER BEWARE! Rob Grady, P.J.Grady Inc. _____ From:Dave Stragand Subject: [DML] Optima Batteries? I know a lot of us use Optima batteries in our cars, but I'm on my third one in two years. The guy at the parts counter at Advance told me he gets a lot of them back that are only a year to a year and a half old. Have others experienced the same issues with these batteries? To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: moderators@xxxxxxxxxxx For more info on the list, tech articles, cars for sale see www.dmcnews.com To search the archives or view files, log in at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: dmcnews-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/