I have installed a much larger, heavier auto dimming rear view mirror instead of the stock one. In order to do this I cut a large base out of black plastic (I used black plexiglass and sanded it to a desired finish, sintra would work too) and first joined that to the windshield using double stick tape from a vendor. My base is large, nearly 2" wide (the width of the mirror base) by 9" tall (the height required to run from where that base must meet the windshield up to the headliner), so it is nearly 18 square inches of contact area. That's a lot of doublestick tape. I then used traditional adhesive to put a standard mounting button on it and hang the mirror. No problems so far. The weakest point in my design is in fact the adhesive used to mount the button. If that fails I have just enough thickness in my plex base to countersink a small rivet through it and through the button. My mirror has enough clearance over the face of the button to accommodate that. Between a rivet and adhesive, the button would be on the new base forever. In your application, you could produce a smaller base, say 2" square and use good doublestick to mount it right over the black pad on your windshield. This would allow you to use roughly 4X the amount of doublestick tape as a normal install. You would then use whatever adhesive you desire to mount the mirror. Find a happy compromise between the size of the plastic base (mostly hidden inside the car by the mirror but visible from outside) for surface area versus aesthetics, and make sure to use black doublestick tape as it is visible from outside the car. If you know Deloreans, my large base is an obvious departure, but may modern cars have similar mountings so it looks normal to an untrained eye. On a side note, as low as the car rides it sure is nice to have the autodim rearview mirror as every SUV headlight in the world comes right in on it at full brightness, and knowing the temp outside helps too if your keeping an eye on your cooling or AC system. Tom 10902 ________________________________ From: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Steelwings Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2006 7:09 PM To: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [DML] The Rear View Mirror Issue ***Moderator's Note*** This post was edited for profanity. Please keep it clean in the future. Thanks. Could someone please explain why we must attach our rear-view mirror with that awful tape pad? I understand that the window may crack due to the difference in expansion ratios between the metal foot, the hard adhesive and the glass when using the conventional adhesives. I guess the real question here is how did this situation come about in the first place and who was responsible? The second question is: Will using a plastic aftermarket mirror shoe facilitate the use of regular window adhesive? Third: Can a flexible adhesive that will expand and contract with temperature such as "GOOP" or silicone be acceptable? Fourth: Are we simply stuck with a *(#$! quality windshield? Last: How come this happened to us instead of the Mustang owners group? Steelwings #1559 _____ From: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:dmcnews%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:dmcnews%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of Justin Lambright Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2006 2:41 PM To: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:dmcnews%40yahoogroups.com> Subject: Re: [DML] Re: New free 'cell phone' parking lots at Chicago airports on a normal day, probably about 45 min. in your case, i'd say add an hour to it, lol Cliff Schmucker <cliff@deloreanproje <mailto:cliff%40deloreanproject.com> ct.com> wrote: what is the driving time estimate from O-Hara about 4:30PM Friday? - I have to pick someone up around them :-( probably couldn't be a worse time... tnx, Cliff On Tue, 06 Jun 2006 23:04:30 -0000, you wrote: >Flying into Chicago for DCS 2006? > >Some info for people flying in for the events next week, >especially if they are being picked up at the airport by >someone who is already in the Chicago area. > >Drivers picking up passengers at Chicago's airports can >avoid some of the runaround by using new free cell phone >parking lots that have been opened on June 1, 2006. > >The lots, located within a five-minute drive of terminals >at O'Hare International and Midway Airports, are now open >and provide places for motorists to wait for arriving >passengers without having to pay to park, waste precious >gas or risk ticketing and towing. > >After receiving a phone call, drivers can proceed to the >terminal to pick up passengers waiting at curbside. > >The cell phone lot at O'Hare has 150 spaces designated >in economy parking lot F, off Bessie Coleman Drive. >Signs directing drivers to the cell lot are posted on >Mannheim and Zemke Roads and on I-190, the access >highway from the Kennedy Expressway. > >The 90-space cell phone lot at Midway is at 61st Street >and Cicero Avenue, south of the main airport entrance. >Signs are installed on Cicero and along the lower-level >roadway outside the terminal. > >Drivers waiting in the cell phone lots must be inside >their vehicles at all times, and parking is limited to >one hour. 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