Glenn's experience reminded me I wanted to share something for all to keep in mind. I had been relying on the stock clip to keep my otterstat sensor in my coolant pipe, and the clip let go on the 405 Freeway dumping all my coolant in about a minute. I fortunately got off the freeway in seconds and pulled into a 7-11 right there before anything got too hot. The otterstat was still hanging from its wires so refitting it was easy, I also added a cable tie to keep it in place. I filled the car again with antifreeze and water and bled the radiator (thanks Toby for the radiator bleeder!) and was ready to go again in a matter of minutes - but the car would not start. After a minute or two of frustration I realized that the engine was still nice and hot, but the coolant, especially at the thermotime switch, was relatively cold. All I had to do was unplug the cold start valve wire and it started right up. To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: moderators@xxxxxxxxxxx For more info on the list, tech articles, cars for sale see www.dmcnews.com To search the archives or view files, log in at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: dmcnews-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/