Hello everyone, Does anyone have experience with this? I am considering the r134 retrofit #2 as described in the DMC news technical archives, the cheap one. Here is my question. It does not say anywhere that you have to get all of the r12 oil out before charging with r134. It recommends flushing the system minus the compressor. But there would still be oil in the compressor right? And that oil would break down when in contact with r134 causing compressor failure correct? I will eventually overhaul my entire system but I thought I would try the cheap fix for this summer while I save money. The article also does not mention adding any r134 compatible oil. Anyone who has experience with this mod, successful or otherwise I would like to hear from you. Thanks. Nathan 2277 PS- how much should I pay for a can of r134 in Southern California? I have seen it from $15 to $7, but have read it should be $4.50. (for 13oz) To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: moderators@xxxxxxxxxxx For more info on the list, tech articles, cars for sale see www.dmcnews.com To search the archives or view files, log in at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: dmcnews-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/