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- From: "Marvin" <marv@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
 
- Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2006 16:13:19 -0400
 
Hello Ken:
1 table please for the souvenir glasses. Yes, I'm again pleased to help support the show with freebies.
Do you have any art showing date / location, that I can use for one side? The DeLorean with open doors will be on the 2nd side. Prefer a vectored eps file in black on white.
Regards and thx,
Marv.
Marvin Stein
924 Dundas Street
London, Ontario, Canada, N5W 3A1
tel: 519-434-1666
fax: 519-434-7071
toll free: 1-866-725-4665
email: marv@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
website: www.printeddrinkware.com
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Subject: [DML] Digest Number 3204
> There are 15 messages in this issue.
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> Topics in this digest:
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>      1. Celebration Concours, 4/29/2006, 9:00 am
>           From: dmcnews
>      2. Re: Re: Oil plug
>           From: "K.L. (KAYO) Ong" <klo@xxxxxxxxx>
>      3. AW: Door latch replacement/upgrade
>           From: "Elvis Nocita" <elvisnocita@xxxxxx>
>      4. Re: Door latch replacement/upgrade
>           From: Martin Gutkowski - DMC Ltd <martin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>      5. RE: Re: Fuel Accumulator - Hot start fixed - Kinda
>           From: "Paul" <willinot@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>      6. Re: Fuel Accumulator - Hot start fixed - Kinda
>           From: "Dave Sontos" <dsontos@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>      7. Re: Won't start cold
>           From: "Dave Sontos" <dsontos@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>      8. Re: Fuel Accumulator
>           From: kKoncelik@xxxxxxx
>      9. Vendors for DCS
>           From: kKoncelik@xxxxxxx
>     10. New DeLorean t-shirt designs now available at BTTF.com
>           From: "BTTF.com" <stephen@xxxxxxxx>
>     11. RE: DeLorean Key Blanks
>           From: <rob@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>     12. Re: Fuel Accumulator - Hot start fixed - Kinda
>           From: "Lawrence Lormand" <lawrencesr@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>     13. DCS Raffle Car Update!
>           From: Patrick Conlon <PRC1216@xxxxxxx>
>     14. RE: 3461 and 16879 Home Again!!!
>           From: "Jack Stiefel" <jack@xxxxxxxxx>
>     15. Re: Any Tennessee DeLorean Owners?
>           From: "Robert Lingo" <rlingo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> 
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> Message: 1         
>   Date: 15 Apr 2006 12:56:03 -0000
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> Subject: Celebration Concours, 4/29/2006, 9:00 am
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> Message: 2         
>   Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2006 00:08:54 -0400
>   From: "K.L. (KAYO) Ong" <klo@xxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: Re: Oil plug
> 
> "Necessity is the mother of inventions."
> 
> I had suggested to "getting a cheap ratchet" as not to use a good  
> ratchet, unless one wants to.
> 
> In the beginning, I too, I had gone through the method of using  
> "stock key material" as to heating it with a torch and bend it to a  
> 90 degree and then to grind it the to the required size.  I didn't  
> like the feel of the square stock so I used an over sized allen  
> wrench, which was then grounded to size.  Since I don't have the  
> luxury to use a lift and using these fabricated stock key or the  
> allen wrench which is too short as in applying leverage or to get a  
> good working angle while laying on my back with your arm stretched  
> out was a struggle for me.  The Snap On Tool on a ratchet was better  
> but there is also little room and it too was a hassle just to juggle  
> the combination onto the plug with one hand while lying down.  I  
> decided to modify a cheapo ratchet that I had, since it is overall  
> shorter, it will be more maneuverability between the oil pan and the  
> frame.
> 
> With the modified ratchet, once it is on it sits dead flush on the  
> plug and it doe not rock or move while offering many workable angles  
> by the ratchet mechanism.  Coupled with the ratchet's long handle, it  
> offers good leverage in the removal or the installing of the plug  
> without the slippage or marring of the plug's opening when the  
> pressure is applied.  This all can be done with one hand which is  
> much faster and more effective without the scrapping of the knuckles  
> or the hurting of fingers from the applied pressure with the stock  
> key or allen units.  For me it was a matter of working smarter and  
> not harder and my modified ratchet is well worth its weight in gold  
> after the very first oil change and it has served me with over twenty  
> seven oil changes on every scheduled 3,000 plus miles.  And it is  
> still going... Another oil change is due next week.
> 
> BTW, a friend of mine discarded that "cheap ratchet" that I got off  
> him when he purchased a set of real professional name brand  
> tools.....  So, one man's junk is another man's treasure.
> 
> Anyway, I was just sharing my experiences for it had worked very well  
> for me and it could be an alternative way for those who may wanted to  
> go this way to have a dedicated oil plug tool.   :-)
> 
> 
> 
> Kayo Ong
> 
> #5508  (Ten years of ownership as of two weeks ago)
> 
> Lic  9D NY
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Apr 14, 2006, at 4:27 PM, Joe Palatinus wrote:
> 
>> I suppose everyone has their method, but I am surprised no one has
>> mentioned this one yet: just get an 8mm hex key (maybe 3$ at sears)
>> and grinding down the edges to make it rectangular.  The key has a 90
>> degree angle already and fits right in the hole for the plug.  I have
>> used this technique several times with much success, and you don't
>> need to destry a good ratchet.
>> Joe P.
>> 17167 6808
>>
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> Message: 3         
>   Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2006 07:21:48 +0200
>   From: "Elvis Nocita" <elvisnocita@xxxxxx>
> Subject: AW: Door latch replacement/upgrade
> 
> Wayne,
> if you had read the DML regularly you would know that I started
> that discussion about one year ago but people weren't interested.
> 
> There are Deloreans out there that can be locked while the doors are open.
> I never found out when the lachtes were replaced, but there are original
> latches that work like you want them to work.
> 
> Another way is to install a diode and a resistor on the correct place
> in the door lock module and the power locks won't work as long
> as a door os open.
> 
> Elvis 6 6548
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> The fact that hitting the lock/unlock switch with doors open can cause
> misalignment and malfunction is a collossal pain in the butt. Since our cars
> are
> the only ones that I've seen that work that way, I can't help but wonder,
> "WHY?"  And isn't there a car out there with door latches that would be more
> user
> friendly, if adapted to fit? I've been on the DML for maybe 6 or 7 years and
> I
> don't recall anyone ever discussing this. Hasn't anyone ever tried it? Of
> course  I realize that we use 2 latches instead of one, but that's an inside
> the
> door  issue, not a latch issue per se. Don't other cars use link rods too,
> in
> some  fashion?
> 
> 
> Wayne A.  Ernst
> vin 11174
> Bridgeton, NJ
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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> Message: 4         
>   Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2006 11:54:43 +0100
>   From: Martin Gutkowski - DMC Ltd <martin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: Door latch replacement/upgrade
> 
> There're plenty of cars over here that won't let you pop the locks when 
> the door is open. It's a simple mechanism whose function is to prevent 
> you from locking yourself out of the car. On my Citroen, for example, 
> the rear doors will let you, the front doors won't. If you try, the 
> button is rock solid.
> 
> However on a lot of cars, you -can- pop the locks with the doors open by 
> lifting the handle first. The DeLorean is in this category, although I 
> won't go as far as to recommend doing it, I certainly do it.
> 
> I think the biggest problem is those big solenoids. When they work, they 
> don't haf pull hard and there's enough play in the complex linkage (by 
> the standard of any other car) to trigger them even when the latches 
> don't want to move. This forces the latches or at least put a lot of 
> strain on what can be some pretty fine adjustments in those linkages. 
> It's no wonder that most "I can't get my door open" problems relate to 
> the front lock rod which is long and bent into a Z-shape.
> 
> These latches are common to a large number of cars and are still in 
> production today and used on new cars
> 
> Martin
> 
> deloreanernst@xxxxxxx wrote:
> 
>>The fact that hitting the lock/unlock switch with doors open can cause  
>>misalignment and malfunction is a collossal pain in the butt. Since our cars are  
>>the only ones that I've seen that work that way, I can't help but wonder, 
>>"WHY?"  And isn't there a car out there with door latches that would be more user  
>>friendly, if adapted to fit? I've been on the DML for maybe 6 or 7 years and I 
>> don't recall anyone ever discussing this. Hasn't anyone ever tried it? Of 
>>course  I realize that we use 2 latches instead of one, but that's an inside the 
>>door  issue, not a latch issue per se. Don't other cars use link rods too, in 
>>some  fashion? 
>> 
>> 
>>Wayne A.  Ernst
>>vin 11174
>>Bridgeton, NJ
>>
>>  
>>
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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> Message: 5         
>   Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2006 09:45:05 +0100
>   From: "Paul" <willinot@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: RE: Re: Fuel Accumulator - Hot start fixed - Kinda
> 
> How do I check these?  I know the fuel pump is a new pump so it should be ok
> but where is the primary pressure regulator.
> 
> I have already replaced an "o" ring just below where all the fuel hoses
> connect to.
> 
> Im going to run the car a bit more today to see it if settles down cos it
> was 11.30pm when I finishes last night and only really had time to start her
> once and go for a run to warm her up and restart about 15-20 mins after.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Paul J 
> 2493
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
> David Teitelbaum
> Sent: 15 April 2006 02:41
> To: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [DML] Re: Fuel Accumulator - Hot start fixed - Kinda
> 
> Could also be the check valve on the fuel pump and the Primary
> Pressure Regulator.
> David Teitelbaum
> vin 10757
> 
> 
> --- In dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "willinot" <willinot@...> wrote:
>>
>> 
>> What a day Now I know what everyone is talking about when they say the
>> Accumulator replacement is a nightmare.  I never want to do that again. 
>> 
>> Ive managed (at last) to get it sorted though.  Only took bout half h
> 
> 
> 
> 
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> Message: 6         
>   Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2006 09:28:34 -0400
>   From: "Dave Sontos" <dsontos@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: Fuel Accumulator - Hot start fixed - Kinda
> 
> I don't remember if you posted what you had done previously but have you
> done a complete tune-up including new injectors? After twenty-five years
> mechanical parts get clogged and springs lose their tension.
> 
> Dave Sontos
> vin 02573
> 
> After the test run and 15mins stop for a restart, the
> engine now turns over and over and over and eventually fires to life after a
> bit of throttle whereas before changing the accumulator, when I tried to
> start her the engine would turn over, start and die off again.  After four
> attempts she then started (I have the relay fitted to by pass the hot start
> problem so that I can at least get it to start eventually).
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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> Message: 7         
>   Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2006 09:32:29 -0400
>   From: "Dave Sontos" <dsontos@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: Won't start cold
> 
> You may want to check and readjust your CO setting. I know on my car just a
> minute turn on the CO setting is the difference of starting and not starting
> when cold and sometimes even when hot. Try setting the CO a little more
> richer.
> 
> Dave Sontos
> vin 02573
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "edherrmann" <edherrmann@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Friday, April 14, 2006 7:59 PM
> Subject: [DML] Won't start cold
> 
> 
>> Car just cranks and won't start. Fuel pump works, fuel injectors are
>> spraying, accumulator just replaced and holding pressure at the air
>> sensor plate, checked spark plugs for spark, cold sart valve spraying
>> when cranked, thermo time switch just replaced and air sensor plate
>> adjusted for rich and lean setting at each crank. Also checked fuses
>> and safty switch under drivers side. Can't figure out why it won't
>> start. Any suggestions. Thanks  ED
> 
> 
> 
> 
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> Message: 8         
>   Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2006 07:19:04 EDT
>   From: kKoncelik@xxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: Fuel Accumulator
> 
> Well after getting the accumulator we put it in the car and this one was a  
> far cry from the previous attempt at removing the accumulator.
> It came out easily and it went back in easy.   Actually the  hardest thing 
> was to get a tie wrap back in there since there is no hand  room.
> The previous one I did would not separate even after the nut was off and we  
> ended up replacing the fuel line as the easier option (and no we did not  
> separate the frame from the car) anyway that is done
> 
> Busy night last night we replaced the antenna on the raffle car, did some  
> wiring on it, changed oil on another Delorean and loaded up some computers for  
> the car show.
> For once a nice productive evening.
> 
> Ken
> 
> 
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> 
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> Message: 9         
>   Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2006 10:06:47 EDT
>   From: kKoncelik@xxxxxxx
> Subject: Vendors for DCS
> 
> Well we are now at the two months and counting time for the DCS show in  
> Chicago.
> This year we are expecting a really big crowd to come through and unlike  
> past shows where we just dropped off some tables and let the vendors fill in,  
> This time space is becoming an issue so we would like to get an idea of who is  
> going to be selling stuff at the show.
> 
> There is no charge for a vendors table but all I ask is that you donate  
> something to the Raffle.
> 
> So if you want a table (s) e-mail me back with how many tables you  want.
> This is just a preliminary guess and we will be able to accommodate you if  
> you need more or less but it will give us a better idea of whom is coming
> 
> Please respond offlist to me 
> 
> thanks
> 
> Ken
> 
> 
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> Message: 10        
>   Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2006 14:06:35 -0000
>   From: "BTTF.com" <stephen@xxxxxxxx>
> Subject: New DeLorean t-shirt designs now available at BTTF.com
> 
> BTTF.com's Time Travel Terminal (http://www.bttf.com/store/) now has 
> two new t-shirt designs in stock and ready to ship:
> 
> http://www.bttf.net/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=BTTF%2DRetro%2DSky
> http://www.bttf.net/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=BTTF%2DRetro%
> 2DPowder
> 
> Stephen Clark,
> BTTF.com
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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> Message: 11        
>   Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2006 13:03:44 -0400
>   From: <rob@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: RE: DeLorean Key Blanks
> 
> Matt, Andrew & DML group,
> 
> FWI we have just received a small quantity of early style door key blanks
> that have an ignition key style fob molded onto them. They are easily
> distinguished from the ignition key by their slightly shorter and fatter
> blank size and fit into a pocket easier than the original blank(Still a
> little bulky for your wallet Matt but I could probably get you an un-molded
> blank if you wish). They have no internal lighting parts to fall apart and
> look correct to the car to anyone unfamiliar to the original lighted blanks.
> The original lighted blank is too costly and complicated to produce in small
> quantities so this is the best option currently available. The cost is
> $14.95 and they are available now on our website.
> 
> Thank You,
> 
> Rob Grady
> 
> P.J.Grady Inc. 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
> conundrum1984
> Sent: Friday, April 14, 2006 2:03 PM
> To: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: [DML] DeLorean Key Blanks
> 
> Andrew,
> The problem I have is they don't have the blank for the early 
> doors.  Also, I like to put a spare key in my wallet just in case.  
> And a molded key will make it bulky in there.  I still might get a 
> couple with the DMC molded head on them, but I can get ones here at 
> work cheaper by close to $10 less.
> 
> Matt
> VIN: 2953
> 
> --- In dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Andrew Prentis <aprentis@...> wrote:
>>
>> Matt,
>> Save yourself some hassle mate and just buy your key
>> blanks from DMC Texas.They're reproductions but look
>> the same as original ones.The other vendors may sell
>> them too.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Andrew 
>> VIN 2883
>> Australia
> 
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> Message: 12        
>   Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2006 01:37:31 -0000
>   From: "Lawrence Lormand" <lawrencesr@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: Fuel Accumulator - Hot start fixed - Kinda
> 
> Sounds like your fuel distributor isn't holding lower end pressure, 
> check to see if your fuel adjuster O ring on right lower side of FD 
> with Nut on it, I'll bet it's broken, rotted out or gone. this would 
> cause your fuel to go back to your tank instead of holding the 
> pressure causeing turn over but no start.
> Lawrence 
> 
> 
> 
> In dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "willinot" <willinot@...> wrote:
>>
>> 
>> What a day Now I know what everyone is talking about when they say 
> the
>> Accumulator replacement is a nightmare.  I never want to do that 
> again. 
>> 
>> Ive managed (at last) to get it sorted though.  Only took bout 
> half hour to
>> fit............................it was the 4hrs to get the old one 
> off that
>> really had the air around me blue ;-).  Ended up pulling the 
> centre console
>> out as Woody suggested.  One thing I also done (don't know it you 
> would
>> usually do it, but it really helped) was instead of unscrewing the 
> 17mm
>> fitting from the accumulator I loosened the one on the fuel line 
> which
>> allowed me to drop the accumulator through 90 degrees and "wiggle" 
> it off
>> the line a lot easier than loosening it from the accumulator 
> (still awkward
>> but definitely easier).  It was actually bending into the top of 
> the
>> accumulator when I tried to loosen it there.
>> 
>> Anyway that's the job done thankfully and the hot start problem 
> seems to be
>> sorted - well kinda!  After the test run and 15mins stop for a 
> restart, the
>> engine now turns over and over and over and eventually fires to 
> life after a
>> bit of throttle whereas before changing the accumulator, when I 
> tried to
>> start her the engine would turn over, start and die off again.  
> After four
>> attempts she then started (I have the relay fitted to by pass the 
> hot start
>> problem so that I can at least get it to start eventually).
>> 
>> Maybe this is normal (as Ive had the hot start problem since 
> buying the car)
>> but it just seems strange that it has to turn over so much before 
> firing.
>> When she is cold (at least before changing the accumulator) she 
> would start
>> on the first turn.  
>> 
>> Any ideas or suggestions. 
>> 
>> 
>> Cheers.
>> 
>> Paul J 
>> Belfast
>> 2493 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Ps:  Ive already replace the "o" ring in the check valve.
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> Message: 13        
>   Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2006 23:27:00 -0400
>   From: Patrick Conlon <PRC1216@xxxxxxx>
> Subject: DCS Raffle Car Update!
> 
> I had the opportunity to help work on the DCS raffle car this  
> weekend, and I am blown away by how great this car looks.  This  
> weekend we put in a new stainless steel antenna, and it has to be the  
> fastest operating antenna in the world.  It flies up and down so fast  
> you can't blink or you might miss it.  It is nice being able to get  
> radio reception in that car again.
> 
> A new reproduction wide black sidestripe was installed today as well,  
> and it really makes the car look phenomenal.  The grain is great, as  
> are the body panel fits.  This is nicer than a lot of D's I have  
> seen, and I can't believe that Ken is really willing to part with  
> this car in a raffle.
> 
> If you haven't bought a raffle ticket yet, there is still time!
> http://www.deloreancarshow.com/delorean-raffle-car.html
> 
> See you in June!
> Patrick C.
> 1880
> 
> 
> 
> 
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> Message: 14        
>   Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2006 17:57:34 -0400
>   From: "Jack Stiefel" <jack@xxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: RE: 3461 and 16879 Home Again!!!
> 
> I took today to break out both cars and do a nice solid cleanup on them.
> I must say the heat got to me and the 83 did not get a complete job, but
> I snapped some pictures including a couple of the 2 tone DMCH seats for
> you Thomas. 
> 
> http://jlsii.com/dmc/2%20Tone%20Seats1.JPG
> http://jlsii.com/dmc/2%20Tone%20Seats2.JPG
> http://jlsii.com/dmc/Rear%20Fascia.JPG
> http://jlsii.com/dmc/Front%20Fascia.JPG
> http://jlsii.com/dmc/One%20Winged.JPG
> http://jlsii.com/dmc/Twin%20Wings%202.JPG
> http://jlsii.com/dmc/Twin%20Wings.JPG
> 
> The pictures of the front and rear fascia are post painting.  My paint
> was faded and starting to flake off.  I went to a great local Body Shop
> here in Tampa and they did it on the car for $250.00 each including the
> lower trim areas -- all on the car to boot!!!  I went with the lighter
> DMC color in clear coat (my car had one style on front and the other
> style on back but no one ever noticed).  The body shop had someone from
> Dupont come in and help them match the color.  I am very happy with the
> outcome, but you guys can judge for yourselves.
> 
> It was weird washing them both together for the first time, I would be
> polishing for a while and forget which car I was working on...  Maybe it
> was the heat, I got one heck of a sunburn and had to retire to the pool
> for about an hour to recuperate.
> 
> Jack Stiefel - Tampa, Fl
> DMC Vin 03461
> www.fmtimemachine.com
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> Message: 15        
>   Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2006 17:24:44 -0500
>   From: "Robert Lingo" <rlingo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: Any Tennessee DeLorean Owners?
> 
> I'm in lower TN, but lower west TN, Lakeland to be exact.
> 
> Lingo #2034
> 
>> Hey Guys!
>>
>>  I was wondering if there were any DeLorean owners in the lower TN area, 
>> around Pulaski, Lawrenceburg, etc.?  If so, contact me off-list, I come up 
>> there a lot on weekends and always enjoy meeting fellow D enthusiasts/ 
>> owners.
>>
>>  Rob Greenhaw
>>  wylldshark (at) yahoo.com
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