Hello Ken: 1 table please for the souvenir glasses. Yes, I'm again pleased to help support the show with freebies. Do you have any art showing date / location, that I can use for one side? The DeLorean with open doors will be on the 2nd side. Prefer a vectored eps file in black on white. Regards and thx, Marv. Marvin Stein 924 Dundas Street London, Ontario, Canada, N5W 3A1 tel: 519-434-1666 fax: 519-434-7071 toll free: 1-866-725-4665 email: marv@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx website: www.printeddrinkware.com ----- Original Message ----- From: <dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Sunday, April 16, 2006 7:58 AM Subject: [DML] Digest Number 3204 > There are 15 messages in this issue. > > Topics in this digest: > > 1. Celebration Concours, 4/29/2006, 9:00 am > From: dmcnews > 2. Re: Re: Oil plug > From: "K.L. (KAYO) Ong" <klo@xxxxxxxxx> > 3. AW: Door latch replacement/upgrade > From: "Elvis Nocita" <elvisnocita@xxxxxx> > 4. Re: Door latch replacement/upgrade > From: Martin Gutkowski - DMC Ltd <martin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > 5. RE: Re: Fuel Accumulator - Hot start fixed - Kinda > From: "Paul" <willinot@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > 6. Re: Fuel Accumulator - Hot start fixed - Kinda > From: "Dave Sontos" <dsontos@xxxxxxxxxxx> > 7. Re: Won't start cold > From: "Dave Sontos" <dsontos@xxxxxxxxxxx> > 8. Re: Fuel Accumulator > From: kKoncelik@xxxxxxx > 9. Vendors for DCS > From: kKoncelik@xxxxxxx > 10. New DeLorean t-shirt designs now available at BTTF.com > From: "BTTF.com" <stephen@xxxxxxxx> > 11. RE: DeLorean Key Blanks > From: <rob@xxxxxxxxxxx> > 12. Re: Fuel Accumulator - Hot start fixed - Kinda > From: "Lawrence Lormand" <lawrencesr@xxxxxxxxxxx> > 13. DCS Raffle Car Update! > From: Patrick Conlon <PRC1216@xxxxxxx> > 14. RE: 3461 and 16879 Home Again!!! > From: "Jack Stiefel" <jack@xxxxxxxxx> > 15. Re: Any Tennessee DeLorean Owners? > From: "Robert Lingo" <rlingo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > ________________________________________________________________________ > > Message: 1 > Date: 15 Apr 2006 12:56:03 -0000 > From: dmcnews > Subject: Celebration Concours, 4/29/2006, 9:00 am > > > Reminder from the Calendar of dmcnews > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/cal > > Celebration Concours > Saturday April 29, 2006 > 9:00 am - 4:00 pm > (This event does not repeat.) > (The next reminder for this event will be sent in 7 days, 4 minutes.) > Event Location: Celebration, FL (Disney Area) > > Notes: > www.celebrationexoticcars.com > > > Set up birthday reminders! > http://us.rd.yahoo.com/cal_us/rem/?http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/cal?v=9&evt_type=13 > > Copyright 2006 Yahoo! Inc. All Rights Reserved. > http://www.yahoo.com > > Privacy Policy: > http://privacy.yahoo.com/ > > Terms of Service: > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > [This message contained attachments] > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > ________________________________________________________________________ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2006 00:08:54 -0400 > From: "K.L. (KAYO) Ong" <klo@xxxxxxxxx> > Subject: Re: Re: Oil plug > > "Necessity is the mother of inventions." > > I had suggested to "getting a cheap ratchet" as not to use a good > ratchet, unless one wants to. > > In the beginning, I too, I had gone through the method of using > "stock key material" as to heating it with a torch and bend it to a > 90 degree and then to grind it the to the required size. I didn't > like the feel of the square stock so I used an over sized allen > wrench, which was then grounded to size. Since I don't have the > luxury to use a lift and using these fabricated stock key or the > allen wrench which is too short as in applying leverage or to get a > good working angle while laying on my back with your arm stretched > out was a struggle for me. The Snap On Tool on a ratchet was better > but there is also little room and it too was a hassle just to juggle > the combination onto the plug with one hand while lying down. I > decided to modify a cheapo ratchet that I had, since it is overall > shorter, it will be more maneuverability between the oil pan and the > frame. > > With the modified ratchet, once it is on it sits dead flush on the > plug and it doe not rock or move while offering many workable angles > by the ratchet mechanism. Coupled with the ratchet's long handle, it > offers good leverage in the removal or the installing of the plug > without the slippage or marring of the plug's opening when the > pressure is applied. This all can be done with one hand which is > much faster and more effective without the scrapping of the knuckles > or the hurting of fingers from the applied pressure with the stock > key or allen units. For me it was a matter of working smarter and > not harder and my modified ratchet is well worth its weight in gold > after the very first oil change and it has served me with over twenty > seven oil changes on every scheduled 3,000 plus miles. And it is > still going... Another oil change is due next week. > > BTW, a friend of mine discarded that "cheap ratchet" that I got off > him when he purchased a set of real professional name brand > tools..... So, one man's junk is another man's treasure. > > Anyway, I was just sharing my experiences for it had worked very well > for me and it could be an alternative way for those who may wanted to > go this way to have a dedicated oil plug tool. :-) > > > > Kayo Ong > > #5508 (Ten years of ownership as of two weeks ago) > > Lic 9D NY > > > > > > On Apr 14, 2006, at 4:27 PM, Joe Palatinus wrote: > >> I suppose everyone has their method, but I am surprised no one has >> mentioned this one yet: just get an 8mm hex key (maybe 3$ at sears) >> and grinding down the edges to make it rectangular. The key has a 90 >> degree angle already and fits right in the hole for the plug. I have >> used this technique several times with much success, and you don't >> need to destry a good ratchet. >> Joe P. >> 17167 6808 >> >> >> >> >> To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: >> moderators@xxxxxxxxxxx >> >> For more info on the list, tech articles, cars for sale see >> www.dmcnews.com >> >> To search the archives or view files, log in at http:// >> groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews >> Yahoo! Groups Links >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > ________________________________________________________________________ > > Message: 3 > Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2006 07:21:48 +0200 > From: "Elvis Nocita" <elvisnocita@xxxxxx> > Subject: AW: Door latch replacement/upgrade > > Wayne, > if you had read the DML regularly you would know that I started > that discussion about one year ago but people weren't interested. > > There are Deloreans out there that can be locked while the doors are open. > I never found out when the lachtes were replaced, but there are original > latches that work like you want them to work. > > Another way is to install a diode and a resistor on the correct place > in the door lock module and the power locks won't work as long > as a door os open. > > Elvis 6 6548 > > > > > > The fact that hitting the lock/unlock switch with doors open can cause > misalignment and malfunction is a collossal pain in the butt. Since our cars > are > the only ones that I've seen that work that way, I can't help but wonder, > "WHY?" And isn't there a car out there with door latches that would be more > user > friendly, if adapted to fit? I've been on the DML for maybe 6 or 7 years and > I > don't recall anyone ever discussing this. Hasn't anyone ever tried it? Of > course I realize that we use 2 latches instead of one, but that's an inside > the > door issue, not a latch issue per se. Don't other cars use link rods too, > in > some fashion? > > > Wayne A. Ernst > vin 11174 > Bridgeton, NJ > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > ________________________________________________________________________ > > Message: 4 > Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2006 11:54:43 +0100 > From: Martin Gutkowski - DMC Ltd <martin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Subject: Re: Door latch replacement/upgrade > > There're plenty of cars over here that won't let you pop the locks when > the door is open. It's a simple mechanism whose function is to prevent > you from locking yourself out of the car. On my Citroen, for example, > the rear doors will let you, the front doors won't. If you try, the > button is rock solid. > > However on a lot of cars, you -can- pop the locks with the doors open by > lifting the handle first. The DeLorean is in this category, although I > won't go as far as to recommend doing it, I certainly do it. > > I think the biggest problem is those big solenoids. When they work, they > don't haf pull hard and there's enough play in the complex linkage (by > the standard of any other car) to trigger them even when the latches > don't want to move. This forces the latches or at least put a lot of > strain on what can be some pretty fine adjustments in those linkages. > It's no wonder that most "I can't get my door open" problems relate to > the front lock rod which is long and bent into a Z-shape. > > These latches are common to a large number of cars and are still in > production today and used on new cars > > Martin > > deloreanernst@xxxxxxx wrote: > >>The fact that hitting the lock/unlock switch with doors open can cause >>misalignment and malfunction is a collossal pain in the butt. Since our cars are >>the only ones that I've seen that work that way, I can't help but wonder, >>"WHY?" And isn't there a car out there with door latches that would be more user >>friendly, if adapted to fit? I've been on the DML for maybe 6 or 7 years and I >> don't recall anyone ever discussing this. Hasn't anyone ever tried it? Of >>course I realize that we use 2 latches instead of one, but that's an inside the >>door issue, not a latch issue per se. Don't other cars use link rods too, in >>some fashion? >> >> >>Wayne A. Ernst >>vin 11174 >>Bridgeton, NJ >> >> >> > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > ________________________________________________________________________ > > Message: 5 > Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2006 09:45:05 +0100 > From: "Paul" <willinot@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Subject: RE: Re: Fuel Accumulator - Hot start fixed - Kinda > > How do I check these? I know the fuel pump is a new pump so it should be ok > but where is the primary pressure regulator. > > I have already replaced an "o" ring just below where all the fuel hoses > connect to. > > Im going to run the car a bit more today to see it if settles down cos it > was 11.30pm when I finishes last night and only really had time to start her > once and go for a run to warm her up and restart about 15-20 mins after. > > Thanks. > > Paul J > 2493 > -----Original Message----- > From: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of > David Teitelbaum > Sent: 15 April 2006 02:41 > To: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [DML] Re: Fuel Accumulator - Hot start fixed - Kinda > > Could also be the check valve on the fuel pump and the Primary > Pressure Regulator. > David Teitelbaum > vin 10757 > > > --- In dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "willinot" <willinot@...> wrote: >> >> >> What a day Now I know what everyone is talking about when they say the >> Accumulator replacement is a nightmare. I never want to do that again. >> >> Ive managed (at last) to get it sorted though. Only took bout half h > > > > > > > > To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: > moderators@xxxxxxxxxxx > > For more info on the list, tech articles, cars for sale see www.dmcnews.com > > To search the archives or view files, log in at > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.4.1/312 - Release Date: 14/04/2006 > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.4.1/312 - Release Date: 14/04/2006 > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > ________________________________________________________________________ > > Message: 6 > Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2006 09:28:34 -0400 > From: "Dave Sontos" <dsontos@xxxxxxxxxxx> > Subject: Re: Fuel Accumulator - Hot start fixed - Kinda > > I don't remember if you posted what you had done previously but have you > done a complete tune-up including new injectors? After twenty-five years > mechanical parts get clogged and springs lose their tension. > > Dave Sontos > vin 02573 > > After the test run and 15mins stop for a restart, the > engine now turns over and over and over and eventually fires to life after a > bit of throttle whereas before changing the accumulator, when I tried to > start her the engine would turn over, start and die off again. After four > attempts she then started (I have the relay fitted to by pass the hot start > problem so that I can at least get it to start eventually). > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > ________________________________________________________________________ > > Message: 7 > Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2006 09:32:29 -0400 > From: "Dave Sontos" <dsontos@xxxxxxxxxxx> > Subject: Re: Won't start cold > > You may want to check and readjust your CO setting. I know on my car just a > minute turn on the CO setting is the difference of starting and not starting > when cold and sometimes even when hot. Try setting the CO a little more > richer. > > Dave Sontos > vin 02573 > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "edherrmann" <edherrmann@xxxxxxxxx> > To: <dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Friday, April 14, 2006 7:59 PM > Subject: [DML] Won't start cold > > >> Car just cranks and won't start. Fuel pump works, fuel injectors are >> spraying, accumulator just replaced and holding pressure at the air >> sensor plate, checked spark plugs for spark, cold sart valve spraying >> when cranked, thermo time switch just replaced and air sensor plate >> adjusted for rich and lean setting at each crank. Also checked fuses >> and safty switch under drivers side. Can't figure out why it won't >> start. Any suggestions. Thanks ED > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > ________________________________________________________________________ > > Message: 8 > Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2006 07:19:04 EDT > From: kKoncelik@xxxxxxx > Subject: Re: Fuel Accumulator > > Well after getting the accumulator we put it in the car and this one was a > far cry from the previous attempt at removing the accumulator. > It came out easily and it went back in easy. Actually the hardest thing > was to get a tie wrap back in there since there is no hand room. > The previous one I did would not separate even after the nut was off and we > ended up replacing the fuel line as the easier option (and no we did not > separate the frame from the car) anyway that is done > > Busy night last night we replaced the antenna on the raffle car, did some > wiring on it, changed oil on another Delorean and loaded up some computers for > the car show. > For once a nice productive evening. > > Ken > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > ________________________________________________________________________ > > Message: 9 > Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2006 10:06:47 EDT > From: kKoncelik@xxxxxxx > Subject: Vendors for DCS > > Well we are now at the two months and counting time for the DCS show in > Chicago. > This year we are expecting a really big crowd to come through and unlike > past shows where we just dropped off some tables and let the vendors fill in, > This time space is becoming an issue so we would like to get an idea of who is > going to be selling stuff at the show. > > There is no charge for a vendors table but all I ask is that you donate > something to the Raffle. > > So if you want a table (s) e-mail me back with how many tables you want. > This is just a preliminary guess and we will be able to accommodate you if > you need more or less but it will give us a better idea of whom is coming > > Please respond offlist to me > > thanks > > Ken > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > ________________________________________________________________________ > > Message: 10 > Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2006 14:06:35 -0000 > From: "BTTF.com" <stephen@xxxxxxxx> > Subject: New DeLorean t-shirt designs now available at BTTF.com > > BTTF.com's Time Travel Terminal (http://www.bttf.com/store/) now has > two new t-shirt designs in stock and ready to ship: > > http://www.bttf.net/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=BTTF%2DRetro%2DSky > http://www.bttf.net/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=BTTF%2DRetro% > 2DPowder > > Stephen Clark, > BTTF.com > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > ________________________________________________________________________ > > Message: 11 > Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2006 13:03:44 -0400 > From: <rob@xxxxxxxxxxx> > Subject: RE: DeLorean Key Blanks > > Matt, Andrew & DML group, > > FWI we have just received a small quantity of early style door key blanks > that have an ignition key style fob molded onto them. They are easily > distinguished from the ignition key by their slightly shorter and fatter > blank size and fit into a pocket easier than the original blank(Still a > little bulky for your wallet Matt but I could probably get you an un-molded > blank if you wish). They have no internal lighting parts to fall apart and > look correct to the car to anyone unfamiliar to the original lighted blanks. > The original lighted blank is too costly and complicated to produce in small > quantities so this is the best option currently available. The cost is > $14.95 and they are available now on our website. > > Thank You, > > Rob Grady > > P.J.Grady Inc. > > -----Original Message----- > From: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of > conundrum1984 > Sent: Friday, April 14, 2006 2:03 PM > To: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: Re: [DML] DeLorean Key Blanks > > Andrew, > The problem I have is they don't have the blank for the early > doors. Also, I like to put a spare key in my wallet just in case. > And a molded key will make it bulky in there. I still might get a > couple with the DMC molded head on them, but I can get ones here at > work cheaper by close to $10 less. > > Matt > VIN: 2953 > > --- In dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Andrew Prentis <aprentis@...> wrote: >> >> Matt, >> Save yourself some hassle mate and just buy your key >> blanks from DMC Texas.They're reproductions but look >> the same as original ones.The other vendors may sell >> them too. >> >> Cheers, >> Andrew >> VIN 2883 >> Australia > > > > > > > > To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: > moderators@xxxxxxxxxxx > > For more info on the list, tech articles, cars for sale see www.dmcnews.com > > To search the archives or view files, log in at > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.4.1/310 - Release Date: 4/12/2006 > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.4.1/311 - Release Date: 4/13/2006 > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > ________________________________________________________________________ > > Message: 12 > Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2006 01:37:31 -0000 > From: "Lawrence Lormand" <lawrencesr@xxxxxxxxxxx> > Subject: Re: Fuel Accumulator - Hot start fixed - Kinda > > Sounds like your fuel distributor isn't holding lower end pressure, > check to see if your fuel adjuster O ring on right lower side of FD > with Nut on it, I'll bet it's broken, rotted out or gone. this would > cause your fuel to go back to your tank instead of holding the > pressure causeing turn over but no start. > Lawrence > > > > In dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "willinot" <willinot@...> wrote: >> >> >> What a day Now I know what everyone is talking about when they say > the >> Accumulator replacement is a nightmare. I never want to do that > again. >> >> Ive managed (at last) to get it sorted though. Only took bout > half hour to >> fit............................it was the 4hrs to get the old one > off that >> really had the air around me blue ;-). Ended up pulling the > centre console >> out as Woody suggested. One thing I also done (don't know it you > would >> usually do it, but it really helped) was instead of unscrewing the > 17mm >> fitting from the accumulator I loosened the one on the fuel line > which >> allowed me to drop the accumulator through 90 degrees and "wiggle" > it off >> the line a lot easier than loosening it from the accumulator > (still awkward >> but definitely easier). It was actually bending into the top of > the >> accumulator when I tried to loosen it there. >> >> Anyway that's the job done thankfully and the hot start problem > seems to be >> sorted - well kinda! After the test run and 15mins stop for a > restart, the >> engine now turns over and over and over and eventually fires to > life after a >> bit of throttle whereas before changing the accumulator, when I > tried to >> start her the engine would turn over, start and die off again. > After four >> attempts she then started (I have the relay fitted to by pass the > hot start >> problem so that I can at least get it to start eventually). >> >> Maybe this is normal (as Ive had the hot start problem since > buying the car) >> but it just seems strange that it has to turn over so much before > firing. >> When she is cold (at least before changing the accumulator) she > would start >> on the first turn. >> >> Any ideas or suggestions. >> >> >> Cheers. >> >> Paul J >> Belfast >> 2493 >> >> >> >> Ps: Ive already replace the "o" ring in the check valve. >> >> -- >> No virus found in this outgoing message. >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >> Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.4.1/311 - Release Date: > 13/04/2006 >> > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > ________________________________________________________________________ > > Message: 13 > Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2006 23:27:00 -0400 > From: Patrick Conlon <PRC1216@xxxxxxx> > Subject: DCS Raffle Car Update! > > I had the opportunity to help work on the DCS raffle car this > weekend, and I am blown away by how great this car looks. This > weekend we put in a new stainless steel antenna, and it has to be the > fastest operating antenna in the world. It flies up and down so fast > you can't blink or you might miss it. It is nice being able to get > radio reception in that car again. > > A new reproduction wide black sidestripe was installed today as well, > and it really makes the car look phenomenal. The grain is great, as > are the body panel fits. This is nicer than a lot of D's I have > seen, and I can't believe that Ken is really willing to part with > this car in a raffle. > > If you haven't bought a raffle ticket yet, there is still time! > http://www.deloreancarshow.com/delorean-raffle-car.html > > See you in June! > Patrick C. > 1880 > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > ________________________________________________________________________ > > Message: 14 > Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2006 17:57:34 -0400 > From: "Jack Stiefel" <jack@xxxxxxxxx> > Subject: RE: 3461 and 16879 Home Again!!! > > I took today to break out both cars and do a nice solid cleanup on them. > I must say the heat got to me and the 83 did not get a complete job, but > I snapped some pictures including a couple of the 2 tone DMCH seats for > you Thomas. > > http://jlsii.com/dmc/2%20Tone%20Seats1.JPG > http://jlsii.com/dmc/2%20Tone%20Seats2.JPG > http://jlsii.com/dmc/Rear%20Fascia.JPG > http://jlsii.com/dmc/Front%20Fascia.JPG > http://jlsii.com/dmc/One%20Winged.JPG > http://jlsii.com/dmc/Twin%20Wings%202.JPG > http://jlsii.com/dmc/Twin%20Wings.JPG > > The pictures of the front and rear fascia are post painting. My paint > was faded and starting to flake off. I went to a great local Body Shop > here in Tampa and they did it on the car for $250.00 each including the > lower trim areas -- all on the car to boot!!! I went with the lighter > DMC color in clear coat (my car had one style on front and the other > style on back but no one ever noticed). The body shop had someone from > Dupont come in and help them match the color. I am very happy with the > outcome, but you guys can judge for yourselves. > > It was weird washing them both together for the first time, I would be > polishing for a while and forget which car I was working on... Maybe it > was the heat, I got one heck of a sunburn and had to retire to the pool > for about an hour to recuperate. > > Jack Stiefel - Tampa, Fl > DMC Vin 03461 > www.fmtimemachine.com > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > ________________________________________________________________________ > > Message: 15 > Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2006 17:24:44 -0500 > From: "Robert Lingo" <rlingo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Subject: Re: Any Tennessee DeLorean Owners? > > I'm in lower TN, but lower west TN, Lakeland to be exact. > > Lingo #2034 > >> Hey Guys! >> >> I was wondering if there were any DeLorean owners in the lower TN area, >> around Pulaski, Lawrenceburg, etc.? If so, contact me off-list, I come up >> there a lot on weekends and always enjoy meeting fellow D enthusiasts/ >> owners. >> >> Rob Greenhaw >> wylldshark (at) yahoo.com > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > ________________________________________________________________________ > > > To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: > moderators@xxxxxxxxxxx > > For more info on the list, tech articles, cars for sale see www.dmcnews.com > > To search the archives or view files, log in at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Yahoo! 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