Incidentally, the DeLorean Motor Center unit (which I think is in the $150 range) replaces the speedo cable between the speedometer and the LAMBDA unit. They did the work for me when I had cruise control installed just before I moved away from California. The unit puts out 8 pulses per revolution, I think (the pulses per revolution are written on it, but I'd have to crawl under the dash to take a look). I hooked it up to an oscilloscope at a friend's place where we found out that it puts out a sine wave in positive voltage range (I can't remember quite what the voltage was; most notably, it didn't swing from positive to negative, which I understand magnetic units can do). I plan on tapping into it for some other projects I have planned (which can, in part, be boiled down to an elaborate digital speedometer). The unit DMC has consists of the pulse generator (probably an optical encoder?) with spinning speedo cables attached to it, making it easy to replace the existing cable. They'll sell you just the pulse generator part if you want to construct/obtain your own cables, too, although I'm not sure how involved that is. There are two wires coming off of the unit that you connect to whatever needs the pulses. As for GPS, I'm currently using the TomTom software on my Palm Tungsten T3, with TomTom's Bluetooth GPS module sitting on my dash, which gives it an adequate view of the sky. I live in northern Vermont, so there aren't exactly a lot of tall buildings here to block my LOS, but I've never had any real problems getting an accurate signal, even when I drive around Boston, MA or Providence, RI. The worst I've had is when the maps don't match the actual roads (because of relatively recent construction, for example), so the software thinks I'm driving through a field or missed a turn, but that's not too common. This GPS combo is not tied into the car in any way (except for the extra cig lighter sockets I added under the right drivers knee pad to power the two devices), but the TomTom software seems to be smart enough to account for the once-a-second or so update that the GPS unit provides. As such, it always displays nice, smooth motion by extrapolating from previous positions. If you miss a turn you can see it hesitate for a bit, as it briefly believes that you DID make the turn, but once you've gone far enough the wrong way (maybe fifty to a hundred feet) it jumps to the proper location and accurately tracks again. This could also be explained by the relative resolution of GPS, or the quality of the satellite signal at that point in time. The unit also reports the speed, which seems to be fairly accurate. Due to the once-a-second or so updates, there is a slight reporting lag, but it's not significant; I'm not going to replace my speedometer with the GPS signal or anything like that, though. -- Joe > When I had my Alpine GPS installed in 17167 at a local circuit city, > the guys realized in the middle of the installation that the D didn't > have an electronic speed sensor. They told me they didn;t have the > part at the time but if I brought the car back in a week, they would > have it. They didn't charge me extra for a crazy alpine speed sensor > that actually reads pulses from a spinning tire. (however, > installation was about 120$ if I remember correctly) They mounted the > device in the luggage compartment and used a large magnet to magnetize > 1/2 of the right front tire. now the speed sensor sends a pulse any > time it senses the right front tire make a rotation. To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: moderators@xxxxxxxxxxx For more info on the list, tech articles, cars for sale see www.dmcnews.com To search the archives or view files, log in at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: dmcnews-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/