as far as i own the car it rev up to 3000rpm when starting it....really anoyying thing but i heard that it was pretty normal to rev a little higher than normal when starting..so i lived with it...i just finished my custom headers ans free flow muffler system....so now its really more than annoying this is really somthing i want to remove on the car (the high idle when starting) so i call all vmfers to help me with that....by luck i discovered something interesting last summer : if by example you are at a red light and enters the 5th gear instead of the 1st(hehhe not many chances) and the car dies when you hit the key to restart it WOW the engine doesnt rev up and start at a steady 800rpm just perfect !!!! so my conclusion is than somehow the computer knows that its not the "first start up" and dosent make the engine rev high ? maybe its something like since the key was to the on position and wasnt move to the off position the rpm relay or any other goodies had power so didnt notice it was restarted or something like that.... i checked the lambda and idle systems but did not seems to affect the high idle when startind... pretty sure its more complicated than that but ist for sure something that can be fixed...even if i must shut down the car with a other switch plugged on the car hehhehe thanks to all if ou have any inputs please let me know ! yan To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: moderators@xxxxxxxxxxx For more info on the list, tech articles, cars for sale see www.dmcnews.com To search the archives or view files, log in at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: dmcnews-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/