Hi again I have taken out the radio and can see the two fused wires... I can see that the green/white wire connects to the radio through the orange wire on the radio connector. I take it that this is the wire I splice into to get the 12v feed when the ignition is on??? I have looked at the wiring diagram and it appears to me that the red wire is constant 12v, orange is 12v acc?? and black is earth. The 12v constant is for the clock and station preset so that must mean that the orange is the main power feed that only feeds 12v when the ignition is on... am I right?? Oh, Mike I dont really have a clue how to use a multimeter!! It has about 100 functions the one I have and I can never get any of them to give me a reading..... Alistair. To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: moderators@xxxxxxxxxxx For more info on the list, tech articles, cars for sale see www.dmcnews.com To search the archives or view files, log in at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: dmcnews-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/