[[ Quote below taken from Cliff's first link: http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/cars/problems/studies/Bumper/Index.html ]] [quote] "The most recent revisions to the bumper standard took place in May 14, 1982, effective for MY 1983 and subsequent model year passenger cars. This amendment reduced test impact speeds from 5 mph to 2.5 mph for longitudinal front and rear barrier and pendulum impacts and from 3 mph to 1.5 mph for corner pendulum impacts. In addition, Phase I damage resistance criteria were substituted for Phase II criteria and a bumper height requirements of 16 to 20 inches was established for passenger cars." [end quote] My car was lowered 1-1/2 inches... (measuring from the ground up to the top & bottom of the black bumper "Claude impact area") Stock Height: 15.75" bottom, 19.5" top Lowered Height: 14.25" bottom, 18.125" top Even though both heights have more than half of the bumper within the 16-20inch requirements, the cars were still raised. I would have to guess that the definition of "bumper height" would be to center the bumper within those measurements. But then again, even my stock height was not "centered". Were there some tolerances allowed? If this law was the reason for the front end raise, it does answer some questions but still leaves some speculation. Shannon Y 16506 PS Attn: Mike Griese > (Mike wrote:) > 3. Cheap springs sag, they don't lift a car When I said " 3. cheep springs were used to save money" I did not mean the quality of the springs, I was referring to the price. Hypothetically speaking DMC could have saved money purchasing 'off the shelf' springs (if available, and if correct size but maybe a bit longer than necessary) in stead of manufacturing their own springs from scratch (much like the Volvo engine). So in this case cheap springs could lift a car. [thanks for looking past my lexDysic tendencies when it came to "cheep" vs "cheap"] __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: moderators@xxxxxxxxxxx For more info on the list, tech articles, cars for sale see www.dmcnews.com To search the archives or view files, log in at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: dmcnews-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/