May be true, but Helix Ultra is in fact required for powertrain warranty. The weight (which I just looked up on google!) is 10W60. pretty exotic stuff at any rate. Found some on a website that runs $20.87/Litre at today's exchange rate. Andy In a message dated 3/21/2006 10:09:54 P.M. Central Standard Time, mike.griese@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx writes: If you follow Formula 1 racing, you will notice that Shell is a primary sponsor of the Ferrari team. I'm sure it's only a coincidence that Ferrari recommends only Shell oils for their passenger cars... Use the proper weight oil for the engine and its operating environment as recommended by the manufacturer. Change it and the filter often. Brand is pretty much irrelevant for street use. -- Mike Fargo, ND 1982 DeLorean DMC12 VIN 11596 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: moderators@xxxxxxxxxxx For more info on the list, tech articles, cars for sale see www.dmcnews.com To search the archives or view files, log in at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: dmcnews-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/