Breaking off a drill, tap, or extractor is probably the worst thing you can do. With that being said there is still hope. Sometimes you can get lucky with a small hammer and centerpunch. Try working the extractor back and forth. If you can move it even a little then there is a good chance you can get it out. If it won't move at all then you have to try drilling it out. It is possible (with a lot of luck and experience) to drill it with a carbide bit like as used to drill concrete). You have to go a little at a time and constanly redress the tip. You can also buy a titanium drill bit, again very difficult to do and stay centered but will hold an edge longer but you need a special grinding wheel to redress it. Another option is to lay a washer over the mess and try to weld a nut to the broken bolt. Then, if all goes well, you just unscrew the whole mess right out! A lot depends on the skill of the person and his personal experience with each method. If you are a novice machinest maybe the thing to do is to have the car towed to the shop. Try to talk them into an "appointment" so it won't stay in their shop in their way. Do not be tempted to skip it and hope it won't leak much without the bolt. It will. David Teitelbaum vin 10757 --- In dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Bill Koenig" <dmc06976@...> wrote: > > hey everyone, > > i've been working on a major tune-up on my D for the past few weeks. > one of the short bolts that attach the y water pipe to the engine block > snapped off flush. i tried drilling into it and using a screw > extractor, which i thought was working until the screw extractor > snapped off flush as well. i really have a problem now as the local > machine shop said they could only work on it if i take my engine out > and deliver it to them as they don't have anywhere to work on the whole > car in their shop. also, they said i'm going to have a hell of a time > removing the broken screw extractor. help! > > bill > 6976 > To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: moderators@xxxxxxxxxxx For more info on the list, tech articles, cars for sale see www.dmcnews.com To search the archives or view files, log in at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: dmcnews-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/