Could be - but Don/Dan are pretty good. I hope they are right! I suspect I would lose diagnostic bets against them. I've seen cars driven a long time with the leak - waiting make it harder, but doesnt seem to hurt much. The surface of the manifold tends to rust/burn away, but for some reason the head does not. Dave -------------------------------------- FROM: valleyrat12@xxxxxxxxx DATE: Fri, 24 Feb 2006 16:15:50 -0000 SUBJECT: Re: [DML] Good news for vin 2277 AT LAST!! Gosh, I hope not but it is what it is. Can damage be done to the engine with an exhaust leak? The reason why I was confidant that it is a valve tick is because Don at Garden Grove pointed it out as such, is it possible he miss judged it? Nathan 2277 To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: moderators@xxxxxxxxxxx For more info on the list, tech articles, cars for sale see www.dmcnews.com To search the archives or view files, log in at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: dmcnews-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/