Hi Alistair If the three screws were backed off before, what you've done will reduce the amount of air available to the engine on cranking, but tickling the throttle will have the same effect. I've re-submitted my little guide to setting up the brass screws to Dave to put on the DMCnews site but here it is anyway - this might help but it sounds like you may not have connected up the blue/yellow wire to the starter. This feeds both the cold start injector and wires out half the ballast resistor for a hotter spark during cranking. (this is without checking my wiring diagram!). This has very little efffect on a hot engine. ------------- Problems relating to stalling when the revs dip too low at idle: This is where I get shot down in flames, but when I get a car with such a problem, I start playing with the "brass screws". Here's a little guide to setting these up that should cure your problem. It can't do any harm and if you're not happy, just re-seat them all back down gently. 1) Let your engine idle up to temperature 2) With everything OFF (radio, ac, blower, lights, everything) , back the rear two brass screws out by 2 turns each. 3) Back out the front one (that has a flat screw head) slowly and keep going until you hear the engine speed start to increase. At that point, screw it back in half a turn, such that the idlespeed is how it was before. What we're doing here is getting the engine to a point where it needs a minimum amount of air to idle. As you let more air in via the brass screws, the idlespeed system will fight you and close off the valve. When you get to the point where the engine revs start to rise, the idlespeed valve is closed. We're putting the minimum air requirements through the brass screws and giving the idlespeed system more "headroom" for circumstances when it needs the most amount of air - electrical loading and cold start being the obvious. This is how Renault set up their systems and as far as I can work out, it all comes down to production variation in the valve. I've seen cars where I couldn't back out the screw at all without increasing the idlespeed. Likewise, I've been able to cure problems like yours with 30 seconds and an 11mm spanner. To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: moderators@xxxxxxxxxxx For more info on the list, tech articles, cars for sale see www.dmcnews.com To search the archives or view files, log in at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: dmcnews-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/