In a message dated 1/25/2006 3:02:52 P.M. Central Standard Time, valleyrat12@xxxxxxxxx writes: If I were to "restore" the car it would need a lot of cosmetic parts; new louvres, various interior parts, right rear quarter panel and a passenger front fender but these things do not affect the reliability of the car. So, what is this "rule of twenty"? Are there really people that have had to put 8-10 thousand dollars into their cars before they could even drive them?? Or are we talking about cosmetic issues? Confused... Nathan 2277 >>> Nathan, We are talking about making a car that not only runs like it should as if it were new, but also a car that looks good but isn't necessarily totally restored or a concours winner. As in, the exterior is near-flawless, the interior doesn't have fade or cracking and looks fresh and comfortable, all vehicle features work properly, all recalls/service bulletins have been addressed, most of the updates have been done, all fluids are replaced and ready 'for the longhaul' and the car is turn-key to get anywhere in the country on a moment's notice. I would expect this description to be what most owners would like their car to eventually be. We are not talking about a car that simply gets you around town and isn't dilapidated. We also are not talking about a car that has been, in addition the description above, frame-off restored with a rebuilt engine and most of the parts on the car refurbished or replaced with NOS parts, or in other words the ultimate DeLorean (for me anyway)! Of course, each owner has different personal goals, the type of the car the "rule of 20" describes is pretty much what most owners expect their car to be 'when they are done'. Does that make sense? Andy Fargo, ND 1982 DeLorean DMC12 VIN 11596 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: moderators@xxxxxxxxxxx For more info on the list, tech articles, cars for sale see www.dmcnews.com To search the archives or view files, log in at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: dmcnews-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/