I refrained from responding at that time because there was so much else going on here with the holidays and my move to a new home. Now that the dust has settled... We don't have any blank dash VIN plates, period. We don't have the machine to stamp the numbers on VIN plates, dash or door. The original part number for the dash VIN plate was 106113 and was aluminum with black logo as the one you have. According to the drawing for that part number, Engineering Change 2318 deleted the logo and 2533 deleted all the text. I have not been able to locate the actual copies of those ECA's, just the references from the drawing. The ECA usually gives some description as to why the change was made, hence their importance in this regard. We have thousands of these ECA's, but these have not turned up among them yet. The paper drawings for the 106113 show the then current revision with no markings on it at all, but the microfiche copies show the previous styles. I'll post scans of those up in the DMCHelp.com forums later today. The drawings also indicate that the material used is aluminum, not stainless. A later ECA changed ALL part numbers for parts with more than one color, including the dash VIN plate. 110450 was assigned to the grey VIN plates, and another number (110451, IIRC) was assigned for tan ones. The black one was either changed at that time to 108234 or remained at that number from an as yet undiscovered change. We *do* have several thousand blank door VIN plates. There were two different varieties, 105196 and 110573. The only difference that I can see is the weight ratings changed from 3180/1244/1936 to 3244/1286/1958. Of the two, we appear to have only the earlier style. My theory is that most if not all of the 'spares' of the later style were used by Consolidated International when they "re-VIN'd" all the remaining 82 models as 83 models. I've never seen a blank VIN plate like Patrick's, and only seen imprinted ones on a very small handful of very early cars. Last year we had VIN 575 here for service and it had a plain black dash VIN plate. James Espey DeLorean Motor Company (Texas) Visit http://www.dmchelp.com for tech advice from the pros who know! Brought to you by DMC (Texas), PJ Grady, DeLorean Motor Center and DMC (Florida) --- In dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Patrick C." <PRC1216@xxxx> wrote: > > I just acquired my latest piece of DeLorean memorabilia and am > wondering just how rare it actually is. It is a blank VIN plate off > of a 500 series car, which includes the rare printing that some on the > list have mentioned differs from the other production cars. My guess > is that a worker pocketed it as a souvenir during the first month of > production. I placed pictures of it in the photo albums under "Blank > 500 Series VIN Plate". > > I thought it was a unique item and I snatched it up, but maybe it > really isn't as rare as I think. > > Any thoughts would be appreciated, either on or off the DML. > -Patrick C. > VIN 1880 To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: moderators@xxxxxxxxxxx For more info on the list, tech articles, cars for sale see www.dmcnews.com To search the archives or view files, log in at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: dmcnews-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/