Dave, Have you removed the two cooling pipes? Try to put a flat piece of 1/8" steel bar along the sides to break the bond with the frame. Pounding won't work. You need to get some level in there to start moving it. Also, I have found that spraying penetrating oil long the sides helps it to slide better. Bob To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: moderators@xxxxxxxxxxx For more info on the list, tech articles, cars for sale see www.dmcnews.com To search the archives or view files, log in at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: dmcnews-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/