Re: Before the internet Jon, Being most likely the first private person to do a ground up restore (1982-84 and behond)I can safely say,that the vendors at the time ONLY cared if you spent money with them,and the same went with the "local" DMC dealerships at the time)they gave no helpful advice,and DID not care,except for me spending $$$ in their parts department.And with no workshop manuals available in that time frame,you were on your own,in other words,I had to figure out,for example how to lift the body off the frame,how to remove the doors,and the torsion bars etc,Basically I had to 101 the Delorean on my own,and in a way had to make my "own workshop manual" as I went along,Remember NO workshop manuals in that time frame!! For me parts were easy to find since I was doing a ground up,I advertised in newspapers,for "Delorean parts wanted" and got calls,parts and leads from all over the greater New England area,I EVEN got a call and a very nice gentleman offered to sell to me/ claimed he had a Tan Interior/sliding windows Delorean,(the proto or ?),if I was interested in buying it.(in the shoreline area of Connecticut)he was very sincere about it, but I never followed up on it,and never went to see it,as at that time I did NOT know the full impact of what that meant,(tan interior/sliding windows thing)and as I was looking for parts,or parts cars,and not another Delorean,it just was a waste of time,at that time.It still makes me sick today, when I think how I passed that opportunity up! Speaking from experience,from doing a resto without any outside (vendor)help,all you have to do is look at the Bricklin(I am Not putting those cars down,since I own a mint one)BUT they don't have the same vendor/cult following as the Delorean,and as such are not as popular and in demand.But even the Bricklin is helped out with the Internet.What made it "easier" to own a Delorean,was a "mental confidence" that most people started getting(in my case 1995)when I bought my first desktop computer and went on line(at 14.4Kps)and typed in "delorean" for the first time and found "others"(sites and people,few,but growing) that had a interest in Deloreans in "real time"(abit slow,but still real time),taking my Delorean community,as I knew it, from being a local thing to being a nationwide "real time" community,then later to a worldwide community. Actually I started at the age of 17,with the FIRST "Delorean car" in the 70's which was the Pontiac Gto's(seven of them at one point),then worked up to John's other car the Chevy Vega(gt) and Motion.Per.V8 Vega,then the Bricklins,then the Deloreans,now down to just one Bricklin. The only drawback I could see is that,before the internet,the Delorean seemed like a more rare car to own,as it seemed that each person was more isolated,in their ownership/buying of a Delorean,which made the car feel so rare to own.With the coming of the Internet,along came what seemed/seems like a glutten of Deloreans for sale,easy to find them/locate them,then Ebay and other sites come along,making it "couch potato" easy to buy,sell and EVEN pay,and even having it delivered!! And in some cases getting dirt cheap Deloreans,and all that with the push of a few keystrokes,and without even stepping out your front door.Welcome to the 21st. Century cbl --- In dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, doki_pen <doki_pen@xxxx> wrote: > > What did some of you long time owners do for assistance and parts availability before you could use the internet as a resource? > > Also, do you think obscure cars, such as the delorean, would face less ownership if it weren't for the knowledge that help and parts availability is only a button click away? > > Growing up in the 80's and 90's, I wasn't in the financial position to own a delorean until two years ago. I had been following the mailing lists and already knew who PJ Grady was when owning one of these cars was but a dream. Personally, the decision to puchase one, especially one needing as much work as mine did, was made much easier knowing all these resources were made so readily available. > > Jon > #3215 > To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: moderators@xxxxxxxxxxx For more info on the list, tech articles, cars for sale see www.dmcnews.com To search the archives or view files, log in at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: dmcnews-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/