My D used to behave the same way. Only sitting in traffic would the needle pass the 1/4 mark. When I replaced the water pump and thermostat, the needle would then go to the 1/4 mark and stay there. This confirmed that my old thermostat was sticking open since the temperature gauge was untouched. You can check for a stuck thermostat by starting the car when it's cold and turning on the heater. When the air starts to get warm, the coolant inside the engine block is now warm. Turn the car off and check the radiator. Before I replaced the thermostat, it would be slightly warm too. After I replaced the thermostat, it was cold. I also discovered this is why I failed my first emissions test. The car couldn't get up to full operating temperature before I took my first test. The second time I had to wait in line and temp rose to the 1/4 mark and passed. Chris VIN 4099 At 08:34 AM 12/18/2005 +0000, you wrote: >I've generated some recent questions on the AZ-D message board about >whether my car is running too cold during the winter. If the car is >moving, the gauge sits around 1/8. If in heavy traffic, the gauge >slowly gets to the 1/4 mark and the fans kick in. > >At first glance the 1/4 mark lies halfway between 100 and 220, or 160. >At 1/8, my car would be running around 130. Brr! Otterstat kicks in >early too. To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: moderators@xxxxxxxxxxx For more info on the list, tech articles, cars for sale see www.dmcnews.com To search the archives or view files, log in at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: dmcnews-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/