Nathan, In working with the factory that builds the cat's the 2 things that render the cats non effective is they get clogged up and won't pass the exhaust properly. The second thing is the precious metal that coats the block is also rendered useless when the car is flooded a lot and has the glow and is burned up. Flooding for extended periods of time will also render the 02 sensor useless also because it also is coated with a precious metal. Proper maintenance with tune ups and fixing gas smells at the first signs can and will prolong the life of the cat and 02. As it stands now, 25+ years old they need to be checked. The block which is the part of the cat that does the work can't be looked at and determined if it's good or bad. John Hervey www.specialtauto.com -----Original Message----- From: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of valleyrat12 Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 1:36 PM To: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [DML] Bad Cat? I pulled my Cat today, lookied inside and there is a screen but I can shine light through from one side to the other. I admit I do not know much about them other than there is platinum inside them. I am pretty sure this is the original that came with the car. Is there any way to tell if it is bad by looking at it? Nathan To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: moderators@xxxxxxxxxxx For more info on the list, tech articles, cars for sale see www.dmcnews.com To search the archives or view files, log in at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: dmcnews-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/