cbl1739 wrote: ><snip> > >in the same respect, as pilot 25,comes before vin # 500,in the >history of the DMC,it was Not just a playtoy for engineering,but THE >beginning of the DMC,it WAS their FIRST actual engineering car or proto >engineering wehicle > Really? So what about numbers 1 through 24? I believe they were all pilot production cars. Tony's proto #1 is one of the Bill Collins cars but apart from outward appearance, was a completely different car to the Lotus engineered vehicle of which Alistair's Pilot 25 is an early production car - whether meant for sale or not is a moot point, IMO. On the subject of Tony's car, didn't the first Bill Collins car have "DSV" on the front grille - for DeLorean Safety Vehicle? Vague recollection somewhere... And just to really mess this thinking up - what about the Lotus test mules? Martin To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: moderators@xxxxxxxxxxx For more info on the list, tech articles, cars for sale see www.dmcnews.com To search the archives or view files, log in at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: dmcnews-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/