Martin, Hmmm..... you didn't build it because it would be at a price you "couldn't justify". Sounds like a Fanzilla I suppose but why is it you two "electrical engineers" can find so much fault with a product but aren't willing to invest the time and money to invent something better for less as you suggest it would be so easy to do. I suppose if I sold "Zilla's" and all of our other products at cost the price would be more justifiable but as a business model it wouldn't hold much water and I would be just another failed "flash in the pan" DeLorean vendor like so many others. I know it's shameful to earn a living working on DeLorean's but my customers seem to appreciate it and the last I heard you were trying to do the same thing. I'm sure your engineering degree makes you an instant expert on all things DeLorean so perhaps I can call you for technical advice. NOT! I don't know about you but I've been doing this for twenty four years and plan on twenty four more and I think you'll be moving on to greener pastures long before then. I'll miss you but you won't see me bashing your products and I assure you it's not because you haven't made anything. It's called professional courtesy which seems to be sorely lacking in this business. Perhaps I should abandon this practice of selling solutions that some people don't appreciate and concentrate on replacing all of the extra blown solenoids, batteries, and engines I could sell as a result! I realize that this debate will be endless and indeed pointless so I'll go about doing what I always do...fixing DeLorean's. P.S. Martin, I do agree that Fanzilla could be revamped using today's technology to create a smaller and hopefully less expensive package. "Bobzilla" and I have discussed this very topic before. If and when he does get the Zilla's back into production I think you'll see some interesting developments. However Bob's a resourceful guy and the Zilla's were never intended to be his sole source of income. Bob stopped checking and responding to any provocations on the DML and the Forum a long time ago because he doesn't need the aggravation. A good way to see that they are never produced again would be to keep up the complaining and it's possible he'll can the whole idea and pursue other interests. Wouldn't that be great! Then certain individuals can boast how they killed the mighty Zilla's and pound their chests. Then we can go back to using fan fail links that burst in flames and "Fan Fix's" that have to be disconnected manually to turn off...lest they too burst in flames. I didn't realize they were causing these problems so I guess I learned something useful from this debate. Have a nice day, Rob Grady, -----Original Message----- From: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Martin Gutkowski Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2005 7:49 PM To: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Cc: elvisnocita@xxxxxx Subject: Re: [DML] FanZilla versus the EBay competitor for Fan Controller Idle Stall At the risk of moving outside the bounds of the DML, but seeing as you asked so -nicely- (that's British sarcasm BTW), I will give you specifics. [moderator snip] To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: moderators@xxxxxxxxxxx For more info on the list, tech articles, cars for sale see www.dmcnews.com To search the archives or view files, log in at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: dmcnews-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/