Hi Dennis, I have had the same experience with past fuse holder sockets like you mentioned. The plastic around them is constant melting. After working on semi, and some race cars I work on we stopped using them. The class style fuses are just so much more reliable, providing you by a decent holder. I tried over 18 different holders when I built my fan unit, and let me tell you not all holders are the same. To find one that can hold 25 amps of current, with decent contacts is quite hard to find. Although my original prototypes I had built used the same style connector. I had wanted to use a fuse style that was readily available, and in use in the car. But after talking to rob during the final stages of development he persuaded me to change. And although it takes me an additional 35 minutes or so to build the unit, additional machine of the case (although machine shops job), I believe it is a more reliable solution. I also agree in trying to rely on one or two good vendors. Some parts are better than others, for instance John Herveys brake lines IMHO is much better than the goodridge? version that broke on me later. -Shain -----Original Message----- From: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of dmc_5180 Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2005 7:13 PM To: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [DML] My personal experience with my fanzilla and a fan fix. Group, I'm not trying to jump on any band wagon here, I'm just giving my own experiences. A very recent experience at The Evansville autofest a month ago. The Owner of a very familiar Yellow D was mentioning his car had been running hot during the trip to the show. So, I asked him if his fans were working. He wasn't sure so I had him turn the A/C on because that will force the fans to work. I did a quick check under the front end and it appeared only one was working. So we opened up the relay compartment to see if a fuse had blown. Well, not exactly, what we found was one of the fan fix fuse holders had completely melted down including the fuse. So what was happening was high resistance caused the fuse terminals to get hot and loose contact. Just to verify that it wasn't a bad motor. I took my Fanzilla which I had bought at the Cleveland DCS show from my car and put it in his. Everything worked normal. So I removed the fanzilla unit. Fortunately someone else in the group had a spare double fuse link set up so we stuck that in his car to get him going again. The above experience would concure with a statement Rob Grady had said about the Fan Fix fuse links being used. Maybe it just needs a better quality fuse holder installed. It's a cheap simple fix. Something I should mention about my fanzilla unit. Somewhere along its installed life in my relay compartment, I had a very high resistance wire from the fuel pump curcuit laying against the fanzilla box. Well, this wire got so hot that it melted the plastic case of the box leaving a permanent wire impression in it and deforming the case around where it was touching it. The unit still works as good as ever, even though it looks like it had a meltdown. The bad wire was replaced and has caused no further trouble. If I ever get a digital camera I will post a picture so you can see what I have. BTW: I mentioned this to Bob Zilla at Pigeon Forge. He told me he would replace the case for 15 bucks if I sent it to him. I just never got around too it. Someday I will though. Also if a relay sticks, which causes the fans to continue to run, just change the relay and you should be good to go again. This statement is in response to Mike Packs experience. Unless it is sealed inside a plastic case ofcoarse. BTW: Rotate your parts purchases too all the vendors that support us. It will keep them alive and well for a long time. :-) Dennis To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: moderators@xxxxxxxxxxx For more info on the list, tech articles, cars for sale see www.dmcnews.com To search the archives or view files, log in at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: dmcnews-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/