Ok. I went to test/fix some things. I broke more things ;). Ok, so I found an LED light that fits the headlight/hazzard switch and the cigarette lighter. I try to gently pull the lighter out, being extra careful to the "ears" that hold the illum ring in. SNAP. *sigh* So than I get the LED light in its place in the illumination ring. Put key in - turn. Nothing. No light in the illumination ring at all. Now, this is where my question kind of "spreads" into multiple questions. 1. Does this light only come on with the headlight switch on? Problem with me testing that...my switch went bad tonight. Until I get a new one in, I can't know for sure if the ring only comes on with the headlights/dashlights on, or if it's supposed to come on with the key in position two in the ignition.. 2. If the illum ring should come on with only the turning of the key, than why in the world is mine not lighting up? I checked fuse #8 - it is good, and every single other thing that fuse #8 controls works just fine. Could it have something to do with the ear on the ring being broken that it isn't making a good enough connection to the cigarette lighter - since I assume the cigarette lighter is grounded (2 wires going to it, I assume one positive and one ground)..? 3. The illum ring only has 1 wire - and that is the little housing where the light goes.. why isn't it like the auto trans shifter light that has a ground, or the sidemarker lights - they are both similar in design by both having ground wires that are soldered to the bulb housing. Why doesn't the illum ring wire have one too? Is it because the lighter itself has a ground, and when the illum ring and lighter are both held in place tightly by the "little clips" - the illum ring utilizes the ground provided by the lighter? 4. If I'm completely offbase, and the wire fed to the illum ring is getting no power, could I splice another wire (say..the auto tranny shifter light) for power, and utilize a ground wire, run it under the center console, and attach it to the steering column (grounded to the frame) to get light back in the ring? Lots of questions there - I know, but this got awfully frustrating at 1:15am. If anyone could provide me with a solution to get the ring lit up again, that would be great. As said earlier, it's all the little things working that make the car great. Jeremiah __________________________________ Yahoo! Music Unlimited Access over 1 million songs. Try it free. http://music.yahoo.com/unlimited/ To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: moderators@xxxxxxxxxxx For more info on the list, tech articles, cars for sale see www.dmcnews.com To search the archives or view files, log in at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: dmcnews-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/