When you have the grill off to make the deflector check the screws and their caulking. The screws on the drivers side were caulked on my car but not on the passenger side. Caulking them cured my leak. Chris 6301 Patrick Conlon <PRC1216@xxxxxxx> wrote: If you all remember, I was the water leak king a few years ago, always posting about this leak and that leak on vin 1880. Well I still have them, and even Dave Bauerle's shop had no luck, yet stopped one coming in under the passenger door (which I wasn't aware I had). They thought that fixed it, yet I still have them after washing the car yesterday, and mainly when I run my hand under the driver side carpet after washing and slide it towards the center console area, the closer I get to the console, the wetter the carpet is. At the advice of Ken K. I am going to make a deflector for the big opening/drain on the outside of the car in front of the windshield on the passenger side. Hopefully somehow water is coming in there, and creating the deflector will shoot the water down farther away from the area where it might be leaking in. I am sick of breathing the smell of damp carpet. I have performed the factory water leak bulletins, caulked the t- panel, replaced door seals, etc, etc, etc. Does ANYONE (vendors especially) recall anyone else having this problem in the past 24 years, and can anyone else give me any other ideas as to where to look in the event that this deflector doesn't do the trick? Keep your fingers crossed that it does, I have faith in Ken K. A Very Frustrated Patrick C. 1880 To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: moderators@xxxxxxxxxxx For more info on the list, tech articles, cars for sale see www.dmcnews.com To search the archives or view files, log in at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews Yahoo! Groups Links --------------------------------- Yahoo! for Good Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: moderators@xxxxxxxxxxx For more info on the list, tech articles, cars for sale see www.dmcnews.com To search the archives or view files, log in at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: dmcnews-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/